[dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS 2010

Charlotte Foust cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Tue Mar 16 13:54:47 CDT 2010


This is like the bound-unbound religious discussion.  YMMV.  My experience has been otherwise and I have replaced exactly one clutch in my car in the 12 years I've had it ... when the clutch plate broke from metal fatigue.  You've been driving the wrong cars, Drew!  LOL

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:30 AM
To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS 2010

It wasn't the best example.  Needs a little more flushing out.

For example, what you say about gas and brakes is true, for about 20
years ago.  The difference in fuel efficiency between the two nowadays
is marginal, and CVTs out perform anything in City driving, and will
advance even more as technology gets better.  You wouldn't want to
operate a transmission with a thousand gears, which is why an automatic
'CVT' will increase engine efficiency beyond the limited loss of the
controlling mechanism.  Really, you can improve the fuel efficiency by
not getting A/C too...but who wants to do that?  As for Brakes, my older
cars did wear out faster between automatic and manual.  But in my newer
cars, brake life is majorly extended.  Properly maintained brakes work
for quite sometime, and are VERY cheap an easy to replace.  Clutches
aren't.  I would rather replace my brakes every year, then replace a
clutch every four years.  

As for control....ummmm, other then it's easier to jump start your car,
that 'control' is an illusion.  You are still making the car go
backwards or forwards, based on the gas you are giving it.  Is there
some magic in having human control as to when you shift gears?  

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:42 AM
To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS
2010

I have to take exception to your transmission example, Drew.  I've
driven an manual transmission for most of my life and only drive an
automatic under duress.  It reduces wear on the brakes, saves gas and
gives me the fine control I want over the vehicle.  I don't see that
curly brackets give any particular kind of control over anything.
They're a visual representation of something, but for readability, you
have to add all that wasted space or you can't make sense of the
"helping hands".  LOL

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:32 AM
To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS
2010

First, let me reiterate that I'm no longer a developer, so this is just
banter.

With that said, how can you say:

{
   Blah blah { blah blah ;}
}

Is easier then 

Blah blah

????

I think this is like automatic vs. manual transmission.  Granted, you
want to use a manual transmission in a race car, but do you really need
to use it in everyday life?  The nomenclature of C is just giving the
illusion of control.  Control over something that just isn't necessary
anymore.... sort like caring about whether a program takes up 1k versus
4k.  Doesn't it really matter anymore?

Drew


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