[dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS 2010

<<<
But the move to making point and click 
development tools is not too far
in the distant future.
>>>
No, Drew, no way (if by the above statement you mean mainstream professional
software development):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Silver_Bullet 

Software development tools do evolve but the complexity of the tasks to be
solved by the modern software does evolve quicker - that promise to be never
ending "hunting one own tail story" - the more advanced development tools we
get the more complicated programming tasks we will have to solve...

Thank you.

--Shamil {^;^}

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[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:24 PM
To: dwaters at usinternet.com; Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related
programming issues.
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS 2010

Just wanted to throw something else into this discussion.  We've debated
a lot of things, but the irony is that we will all be outdated
eventually in our paradigm of programming.

If you don't have an inkling of what I am talking about, you have never
encountered a 'modern' 'web programmer'.  Their use of the word
'programmer' or 'developer' would be laughable to any of us on this list
no matter what our personal prejudices are.  Web development has gone
through many changes, from plain old HTML, to server side scripts to a
multitude of client side scripting/process languages.  To truly
understand all of them at a code line level is beyond a daunting task.
For example, I can write HTML and asp in my sleep.  I can fuddle through
php, and I'm actually not too bad at javascript.  VBScript is like
walking, but it's got a VERY limited use since it requires IE as a
browser.

To deal with such a broad range (Java, Flash, Shockwave, etc.) of
tools/languages, there are more and more 'tools' out there which have
taken programming from ....

Hmmm, I'd say the best way to explain would be to compare an old PC,
with a very basic BIOS and DOS, to a brand new PC with Windows 7.  Heck,
the modern BIOSes are coming with mouse interfaces...MOUSE INTERFACES
for pete's sake!  

But these tools allow someone that would stare blankly at a few lines of
code, to whip up database backend systems on a webserver, with fancy
pictures, buttons, functions, etc, with no more complicated knowledge
then knowing how to spell d a t a b a s e.  It's way more art and color
coordination then actual development.  Granted, right now these tools
are way more generic then is necessary for a customized applications.
But the move to making point and click development tools is not too far
in the distant future.

Drew

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