Mark Breen
marklbreen at gmail.com
Mon May 17 07:11:19 CDT 2010
Hello Michael, I have been using powerDNN for DNN hosting and find them to be good. And they have SQL 2008 which is great as many still run SQL 2005. Do you do much with DNN? Mark On 15 May 2010 07:37, Michael Maddison <michael at ddisolutions.com.au> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Very interesting. > > I think I'll offer 3 choices... > 1. Static site maintained at hourly rate. > 2. Google option, setup at hourly rate that he can take over if he > chooses. > 3. DNN site, setup for fixed fee that he can take control of. > > Cheers > > Michael > > Hello Michael, > > You have two choices when you create a google apps site > > 1) use a previously created domain name that is not really currently being > used for anything else > 2) Allow Google and their domain registration partners (Go Daddy and Enum) > to create a .com domain for you for $10 > > I usually prefer option 1 because it allows me to seperate out the > management of the domain name and the domain hosting (the google bit). > However the slight complication with option 1 is that you have to create > the C Records and the MX Records yourself. If you have not done this > previously, it can seem daunting, although in reality it is not difficult > and there are loads of instructions out there. > > In Option 2 Google will do ahead and open a Go Daddy / Enum account for > you, > pay the 10 USD and then they will set the C Names and MX Records all > automagically. This works a treat and is very slick. However, if you do > not currently have a google account and if that Google account does not > currently have payment facilities set up, you will have to do that as part > of the process. This can take the shine off the slickness, but once it is > done, option 2 is slick. > > So, assuming you have chosen Option 1 or 2, the total cost now of playing > with Google Apps is €10 for the domain registration. I customarily create > domains and sometimes forget about them once I have tested a particular > point. I frequently register domains with names such as > www.test14052010.com > > As Gustav will probably agree, Google Apps is an incredible solution for > free, the email facilities alone are great and for small businesses that > was > to pay just $10 per year for their domain registration, this is a great way > to have full cloud email, and full website facilities backed up by Google. > > > How to make money from it? > > Well, there are a few ways > > 1) I usually create the sites for free for people and openly tell them it > is > only 15 - 30 minutes work. Sometimes they throw me €50 or €100 which is > nice pocket money when it comes. They they manage the site from there. > 2) Sometimes when people have no desire to manage the site at all, I set a > small fee to do the whole lot for them, but I always tell them inadvance > they can do it themselves if they wish. I still only create four or five > pages sites and I KISS. > 3) As expected when you give away time for free as I have done with google > apps, they then come back a month or more later asking for a database > system > to be built, and this is where I make my real money. > > > In summary: As a free tool, Google apps really fills a need in the market. > If we charge €500 per site we take away the neatness of the the free > solution. So I like to leave it as a free solution and charge down the > line > or one the site for the service I provide. > > I have also ran some "Build your own website" courses for a small local > organisation where I insist that they will have a site up after two tough > days. Because I do them for free, I do one or two per month, and because I > do so many, I am not very fast at creating the site. > > To be honest, it does not really make me money, but I love to see people > with a website running in the cloud for just the $10 is takes to register a > domain. > > Is that any help? > > thanks > > Mark > > > > > On 14 May 2010 00:28, Michael Maddison <michael at ddisolutions.com.au> > wrote: > > > Cant find a trial option and I'm not sure I should use my real domain to > > try it out? > > How much flexibility do you have with styles/laying out the pages? > > 15 minutes??? I'll go broke :-( > > > > Cheers > > > > Michael > > > > > > Hello Michael, > > > > I have set up about 100 sites now with Google apps, I can do them in > > approx > > 15 minutes if I have the content. > > > > It is free and you get the benefit of corporate quality email as well. > > > > Remember you need to select the Standard Edition as opposed to the > > Premium > > Edition. > > > > It has a list / table style template page which works well. > > > > Google Gadgets work really great also, especially the maps and you tube > > integration > > > > HTH, > > > > Mark > > > > > > On 13 May 2010 07:59, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote: > > > > > Hi Michael > > > > > > Or Google Apps: > > > > > > http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/sites.html > > > > > > /gustav > > > > > > > > > >>> michael at ddisolutions.com.au 13-05-2010 01:39 >>> > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > Just looking for some feedback. > > > > > > I've been asked to quote on a small website for a cattle stud. > > > > > > It's not a complex site but the user has asked for the ability to > > > add/update beast stud info. He says he needs to do this once a year. > > > > > > I've used DNN before but it seems like overkill for this spec. > > > > > > Adding/removing maybe 10 entries a year. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts/recommendations? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael M > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-VB mailing list > > > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-VB mailing list > > > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-VB mailing list > > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2870 - Release Date: 05/13/10 > > 04:26:00 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-VB mailing list > > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-VB mailing list > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2870 - Release Date: 05/14/10 > 04:26:00 > > _______________________________________________ > dba-VB mailing list > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >