[dba-VB] FYI: Microsoft embracing REST, ATOM and JSON by Open Data Protocol (OData)

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Thu May 3 02:07:44 CDT 2012


Just the mere fact that you need to use SOAP makes me feel sorry for you, regardless of IDE/language/platform etc. I've tried many of them and it is never a pleasant experience.

Best regards,
Hans-Christian Andersen


On 2 May 2012, at 09:24, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gustav,
>  Well it's a learning curve for sure, if you're a C programmer, then I
> think it's just trival, and something you can get past with not much
> effort, the problem is that I am not a C programmer, I am a
> developer/programmer/dba who can write webservices in C#, and write tsql
> code.  I am also versed in asp and javascript.  So I can figure things out
> well enough.
> 
> ObjectiveC was the biggest learning curve and the biggest problem is that I
> would work with it then abandon it because I didn't have any projects, and
> all the demos and projects I did work on did not relate closely enough with
> my work and thus caused me to still cross the deadly SOAP calls bridge, as
> a hint for those here wanting to partake in the same leap-defying pratice,
> look up sudzc.com it was (for me at least) the most used third party class
> generator that allows you to consume and quickly use your webservice.  It
> is easier than many of the other converters out there, but that being said
> I have not dealt with the oData client for Objective C and thus why I asked
> the question if anyone was using the client in .net, I don't, but was
> curious.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Francisco
> http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
> <http://db.tt/JeXURAx>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Francisco
>> 
>> You just confirmed why I decided to stay off iOS (and Android for that
>> matter); too little time for such stuff.
>> 
>> I just went to a meeting today at Microsoft for an intro to Windows 8
>> Metro apps running on the new WinRT and learned that you just as well can
>> get used to async communication for any serious task. The good news is that
>> it is extremely easy to set up with the new API - just a few lines of code.
>> 
>> We didn't reach oData. I would be interested in following this, though
>> some have had some bad experiences:
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/programming-and-development/my-first-windows-8-application/5273
>> 
>> but I guess it is just a question of using it "right".
>> 
>> /gustav
>> 
>> 
>>>>> fhtapia at gmail.com 02-05-2012 17:24 >>>
>> Shamil,
>> Have you done any work on with oData?  sounds like the Microsoft Irland's
>> answer to a webservice protocol... j/k everyone :)
>> 
>> In my day to day I've moved away from developing exclusively on microsoft
>> products and into developing in SAP and now ObjectiveC (iPad apps).  I had
>> just crossed a horrible bridge and learning curve to figure out calling
>> soap objects from iOS, a process where Apple can learn a thing or three
>> from MS and their IDE.  In C# I can consume a wsdl and begin using it
>> almost right away after the wizard is complete.  in ObjectiveC I need a
>> third party product that will help me consume the WSDL and then create
>> classes from it, so I can begin using it, the problem is everyone's class
>> generator is different and there are vastly different approaches including
>> a hand coded effort in pure xcode tools which while it's a good IDE, I
>> think I'm just too familiar with MS.
>> 
>> anyhow, this post was supposed to be more about oData, as the latest papers
>> from SAP recommend using this protocol for interfacing between SAP and
>> Third party products (MS applications, iOS, Android etc etc etc)
>> 
>> is anyone else here interested in this type of discussion or familiar with
>> it beyond the original post?
>> 
>> 
>> Hope to hear back from someone! :)
>> -Francisco
>> http://bit.ly/sqlthis   | Tsql and More...
>> <http://db.tt/JeXURAx>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Shamil Salakhetdinov <
>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I have just recently got the following site URL - is it well known
>>> there/was
>>> mentioned already here?:
>>> 
>>> Open Data Protocol FAQ
>>> http://www.odata.org/faq
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Shamil
>> 
>> 
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