[dba-VB] English understanding: Intrinsic?

Thanks Mark, you have a wise wife!

/gustav

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Emne: Re: [dba-VB] English understanding: Intrinsic?

Hi Gustav,

well it is a matter of opinion and taste,

it is a subtle word with subtle meanings, if you found out that the author
first language was not english, I would not be surprised, and if you told
me he went to Cambridge and is an english expert, I would also not be
surprised.

If I wanted to write plain ol' english to explain a point, I would consider
other words such as

built-in
automatic
immediate
direct
inherent
implicit

my wife always says:
"its not the one way we all go, says the woman as she kissed her cow"

:)

Mark




On 16 July 2014 08:44, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Mark
>
> Thanks, it makes much more sense now.
> However, given that explanation, my quote now makes less sense:
>
> >    Intrinsic morphing for byte, sbyte, char, int16, uint16, uint32 and
> uint64.
>
> as the morphing is rather a built-in feature of the library, I guess.
> Without that feature the library would still be useful, you would just have
> to handle the morphing otherwise.
> Except, of course, if the author himself find this feature essential and
> would regard the library as crippled without the feature. Perhaps that is
> what he means. I could ask.
>
> /gustav
>
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> Emne: Re: [dba-VB] English understanding: Intrinsic?
>
> Hello All,
>
> I am struggling to say why I would not use that word to describe the
> variables in a system.
>
> I like the description here
> <http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/intrinsic>
> including the additional example sentences.
>
> Religion might be used with that word.
> Culture might be.
> Deep emotional things may be intrinsic.
>
> Making money is intrinsic to MS
> Helping others might be intrinsic to open source communities.
>
> I would not say "atomic transactions are intrinsic to MS SQL Server".
>
> Why not??  Somehow, it is not the right meaning, sql server does not
> believe it its heart that atomic transactions are important, they are just
> how it is built.
>
> Safety is not intrinsic in the bridge,
> Safety is intrinsic to the city that is building the new bridge.
>
>
> Any help ?
>
> Intrinsic means built in at a deep, almost emotional level.
>
> There seems to be some intrinsically built into me that loves motorcycles.
>
> Debate is intrinsically built into John Colby!
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On 15 July 2014 09:43, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > When you write, say about a code library:
> >
> >    Intrinsic morphing for byte, sbyte, char, int16, uint16, uint32 and
> uint64.
> >
> > does intrinsic here just mean built-in or internal or is that too simple?
> > And what is the opposite? Extrinsic or external?
> >
> > /gustav
>
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