[dba-VS] C#, monads - must read - don't get mad with them while reading :)

[Salakhetdinov Shamil]

 Hi Gustav --

I programmed on Algol on blackboard/paper only while in technical college. It was English (original) version of Algol. There were here also Russian versions of Algol and Cobol  and Fortran and even RPG, not sure about PL/I - the Russian versions of Algol and Cobol were funny :) , it may happen we'll get them or something like that back as Russian officials are currently promoting local software products, - and programming languages may follow...

SqlCommand is for real database-centered apps development, you know :) - similar to raw HTML(5)/CSS(3)/Javascript(/no any Coffee-/Type-Script - they are evil)  are for real web apps development :)

Yes, side project is interesting, it's under commercial NDA now, when released hopefully this fall then it should be possible to tell more about it: it's for local application market, but the knowledge/some parts of its software can be reused for more general purposes - if that application will happen to be developed I'll get you all here informed.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

>Friday, July 10, 2015 4:23 PM UTC from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
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>Hi Shamil
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>Ah, I misunderstood, I have never worked with a macro assembler. The closest I ever got to a mainframe was at the technical university where we programmed in Algol (on punch cards). It must have been the IBM 360 as I recall the 370 to be introduced later during summer 1970 (I attended the International Executive Briefing at the IBM headquarters at Lidingö just outside Stockholm as a conference engineer handling the wireless interpretation equipment).
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>Sounds like an interesting side project of yours. I'll see if I can work my way through Eric Lipperts tutorial to get some better understanding. As I read somewhere: If you don't know both the basics and the perspective, you won't see where you could apply it. For example, when so many mock around with SqlCommand, I can only guess it's because they don't know about neither DataTableAdapters nor the Entity Framework.
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>/gustav
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>Fra: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil
>Sendt: 9. juli 2015 23:39
>Til: Development in Visual Studio
>Emne: Re: [dba-VS] C#, monads - must read - don't get mad with them while reading :)
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> Hi Gustav --
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>I meant *macro* assembler - it's an assembler with a very power preprocessor, especially IBM 360/370 macro assembler: a long ago one of the things I managed to write using this macro assembler was  a macro "mimicking" PL/I formatted output/print command/statement something like C#'s String.format(...) / Console.Writeline (...) - all in one one macro - while it's preprocessed into assembly language machine  commands calls/subroutine calls it can do very high level parsing of its operands/parameters - that should have been a second order monad I guess :) 
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>>  Monad should be though of for a more complicated scenarios
>They mentioned simple
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>forach (....)
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>or
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>for (int i = 0; ...)
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>which could be also refactored/streamlined using monads: I'm reading "Monads, part three" (  http://ericlippert.com/2013/02/28/monads-part-three/ ) and I'm planning to continue reading this blogposts series - hope I will have something more to tell on the subject.
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>I have also a (currently) by-side but challenging project where I have already used LINQ expressions and predicates ( https://www.simple-talk.com/dotnet/.net-framework/giving-clarity-to-linq-queries-by-extending-expressions/ ) and where LINQ expression trees will be also probably used. I cannot say I understand all these techniques in details but at least I have found how to apply them to a real life project one of my customers having been planned to implement for ten+ years for now - and nowadays their "dreams" should come true in a couple of months - thanks to LINQ. LINQ predicates and expression trees - and monads also I guess: without all these modern programming techniques the project would require a lot of custom programming if could have been done at all...
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>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil 
>
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