From mcp2004 at mail.ru Sun Oct 4 03:03:37 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2015 11:03:37 +0300 Subject: [dba-VS] =?utf-8?q?VS_2012_and_Silverlight_5_Business_Apps_design?= =?utf-8?q?_time_and_XAML_authoring_in_VS2012_in_general?= Message-ID: <1443945817.263229870@f173.i.mail.ru> Hi All -- Have you noticed that VS2012 is working in "semi-hanging" mode when authoring XAML in VS2012? By "semi-hanging" I mean that almost every action of editing and saving XAML makes VS2012 unoperational (not reacting on mouse clicks etc.) for a few seconds, intellisense stops working etc.etc. - after working with plain WinForms' projects where everything happens instantly I'm getting a bit crazy about this "feature". BTW, relatively small Silvelight Business Apps (former WCF RIA Services) solutions do take between between 10 and 20+ seconds for compilation/building - because of background code generation I guess taking that much time on every compilation cycle... I have Intel i7, 12GB. And as I have noticed on the same system, the same time in parallel VS2012 instances WinForms projects are flying... Should I switch to Win10 and/or VS2015 ASAP? Thank you. -- ???????????? ?????? From gustav at cactus.dk Sun Oct 4 05:22:00 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:22:00 +0000 Subject: [dba-VS] VS 2012 and Silverlight 5 Business Apps design time and XAML authoring in VS2012 in general In-Reply-To: <1443945817.263229870@f173.i.mail.ru> References: <1443945817.263229870@f173.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: Hi Shamil I can't tell, but I noticed with VS2012, that if I hit the Debug menu, "something" behind the scene happened for 5-10 seconds. That behaviour wasn't carried over to VS2015 even on the same projects. None of these were Silverlight projects though. Also, I believe that VS2015 can coexist with VS2012, so it should be safe to try - at least you can create a system restore point to revert to. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil Sendt: 4. oktober 2015 10:03 Til: Development in Visual Studio Emne: [dba-VS] VS 2012 and Silverlight 5 Business Apps design time and XAML authoring in VS2012 in general Hi All -- Have you noticed that VS2012 is working in "semi-hanging" mode when authoring XAML in VS2012? By "semi-hanging" I mean that almost every action of editing and saving XAML makes VS2012 unoperational (not reacting on mouse clicks etc.) for a few seconds, intellisense stops working etc.etc. - after working with plain WinForms' projects where everything happens instantly I'm getting a bit crazy about this "feature". BTW, relatively small Silvelight Business Apps (former WCF RIA Services) solutions do take between between 10 and 20+ seconds for compilation/building - because of background code generation I guess taking that much time on every compilation cycle... I have Intel i7, 12GB. And as I have noticed on the same system, the same time in parallel VS2012 instances WinForms projects are flying... Should I switch to Win10 and/or VS2015 ASAP? Thank you. -- ???????????? ?????? From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Oct 4 08:22:54 2015 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 09:22:54 -0400 Subject: [dba-VS] VS 2012 and Silverlight 5 Business Apps design time and XAML authoring in VS2012 in general In-Reply-To: References: <1443945817.263229870@f173.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: Shamil, I can only speak to the Windows 10 part of your questions. I am a huge fan ot Windows 10 and I switched both of my boxes to that OS even before the official release. Arthur Should I switch to Win10 and/or VS2015 ASAP? > > Thank you. > From mcp2004 at mail.ru Tue Oct 6 01:03:06 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 09:03:06 +0300 Subject: [dba-VS] =?utf-8?q?EF_6=2Ex=2C_VS2012_-_EF_model_isn=27t_getting_?= =?utf-8?q?stored_procedures=27_defintions_updated_on_refresh?= Message-ID: <1444111386.324730724@f356.i.mail.ru> Hi All -- Have you experienced the issue when EF 6.x model ?(.edmx and generated .cs classes) isn't getting updated on manual refresh of changed Stored Procedures? How do you usually do this update? For me currently the only way is to manually delete and recreate (add) ?"images" of changed Stored Procedures (SPs) - when SPs 'output columns are added/deleted. I don't have that many SPs now so the issue isn't a big deal but I'd like to somehow automate this process to be prepared for larger projects, which will hopefully come to me rather soon: - all the tables, views, SPs and UDFs I'm "mirroring" in an EDMX is a subset of a real MS SQL Data model - ideal would be to specify somewhere this subset and then by a mouse click run a (custom) tool which will delete existing .edmx, will create a new one with the tables, views, SPs, UFDs in my list. I'm sure there should be such a tool for VS2012 (but probably not for WCF RIA Services type of projects - see below), sorry, no time for my own research, I have done it so much during last month that just thinking about one more makes me "nervous" - I'm finishing a SIlverlight (WCF RIA Services/Business Applications) project here - it was a lot of "fun" to "fight" with all that stuff, I've learned a lot - and I do plan to share my findings with you here and in other Access-D subscriptions list - stay tuned.... Note on WCF RIA Services projects: WCF RIA Services keeps EDMX in a Web part of its dual (SilverLight + Web) projects, when EDMX is created and DB objects are added to it their entity custom classes aren't only get generated into EDMX's .designer.cs classes but also in a set of .metadata.cs, .web.g.cs ... etc. "crap" (sorry) - to clean it up when the source MS SQL DB's SPs are changing requires manual work - at least for me - any ideas? -- ???????????? ?????? From mcp2004 at mail.ru Sun Oct 11 08:14:03 2015 From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 16:14:03 +0300 Subject: [dba-VS] =?utf-8?q?VS2015_doesn=27t_have_Silverlight_Business_App?= =?utf-8?q?lication_template=2E_Period=2E?= Message-ID: <1444569243.797646233@f221.i.mail.ru> Hi All -- FYI:?VS2015 doesn't have Silverlight Business Application template. When I have opened my VS2012 SL5 Business Application project in VS2015 it reported 297 (two hundreds ninety seven) compile time errors. The errors are mainly of type Errors CS0234 The type or namespace name 'x' does not exist in the namespace 'y' (are you missing an assembly reference?) (Comment - there are no any references missing when I'm checking projects' references). What is interesting to note even with these errors the project is getting built into SL5 executable xap file, web site part is also compiled and built well - and all stuff runs... -- ???????????? ?????? From gustav at cactus.dk Sun Oct 11 08:51:38 2015 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:51:38 +0000 Subject: [dba-VS] VS2015 doesn't have Silverlight Business Application template. Period. In-Reply-To: <1444569243.797646233@f221.i.mail.ru> References: <1444569243.797646233@f221.i.mail.ru> Message-ID: Hi Shamil Weird indeed. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil Sendt: 11. oktober 2015 15:14 Til: Development in Visual Studio Emne: [dba-VS] VS2015 doesn't have Silverlight Business Application template. Period. Hi All -- FYI: VS2015 doesn't have Silverlight Business Application template. When I have opened my VS2012 SL5 Business Application project in VS2015 it reported 297 (two hundreds ninety seven) compile time errors. The errors are mainly of type Errors CS0234 The type or namespace name 'x' does not exist in the namespace 'y' (are you missing an assembly reference?) (Comment - there are no any references missing when I'm checking projects' references). What is interesting to note even with these errors the project is getting built into SL5 executable xap file, web site part is also compiled and built well - and all stuff runs... -- ???????????? ??????