From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Oct 7 05:36:25 2016 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 10:36:25 +0000 Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Message-ID: Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav From dw-murphy at cox.net Fri Oct 7 12:00:10 2016 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 10:00:10 -0700 Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008d01d220bc$43cc03f0$cb640bd0$@cox.net> I am probably missing something, but why not use an existing CMS and not have to do any development? I use DOTNETNUKE for some organization sites on shared hosted accounts and they work well. Once the folks involved get a little training they can maintain their sections of the site using the built in editor. Doug -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 3:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Oct 7 12:32:21 2016 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 17:32:21 +0000 Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: <008d01d220bc$43cc03f0$cb640bd0$@cox.net> References: , <008d01d220bc$43cc03f0$cb640bd0$@cox.net> Message-ID: Hi Doug I did consider that, but it would be overkill; there will be ten pages at the most. Besides, there are some special requirements for the visual design that will not fit well into boxed solutions. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Doug Murphy Sendt: 7. oktober 2016 19:00 Til: 'Development in Visual Studio' Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content I am probably missing something, but why not use an existing CMS and not have to do any development? I use DOTNETNUKE for some organization sites on shared hosted accounts and they work well. Once the folks involved get a little training they can maintain their sections of the site using the built in editor. Doug -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 3:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav From scott.marcus at tsstech.com Fri Oct 7 13:02:20 2016 From: scott.marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 14:02:20 -0400 Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have you looked at Grav? https://getgrav.org/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission is for the use of the named individual or entity to which it is directed and may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of any information contained herein is prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, delete it from your system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the error by replying via email or calling TSS Technologies at (513) 772-7000, so that our address record can be corrected. Any information included in this email is provided on an ?as is? and ?where as? basis, and TSS Technologies makes no representations or warranties of any kind with respect to the completeness or accuracy of the information contained in this email. From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Oct 7 13:14:37 2016 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 18:14:37 +0000 Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Hi Scott No ... but it certainly looks neat. Except that I don't do PHP. I'll keep the link, should anyone ask me about a handy CMS. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Scott Marcus Sendt: 7. oktober 2016 20:02 Til: 'Development in Visual Studio' Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Have you looked at Grav? https://getgrav.org/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 8 13:07:51 2016 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 12:07:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1589932638.103073631.1475950071605.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Gustav: This is my opinion but judging by what the webdesigners are using, I would recommend JSons files. Text files tend to be too simple/limited and XML files are non standard and not always supported outside Redmond. Here is one example of using JSon files and the XML equivelent: http://json.org/example.html This is of course is assuming a Postcard type web site. If security is a requirement the site will need a full BE with secure connections and databases. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 3:36:25 AM Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Sun Oct 9 11:19:48 2016 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:19:48 +0000 Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: <1589932638.103073631.1475950071605.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: , <1589932638.103073631.1475950071605.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Hi Jim That sounds as a viable option. Actually, I did consider JSON but somehow got away from it. Now that I look at the examples of your link, I can see that - for my purpose - such files will be easily human readable, thus the minor changes to be made once or twice per year can easily be carried out with minimal work. Also, several good libraries for handling JSON exist for .Net, so I will not have to reinvent anything. Thanks for the wake up. Gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 8. oktober 2016 20:07 Til: Development in Visual Studio Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Gustav: This is my opinion but judging by what the webdesigners are using, I would recommend JSons files. Text files tend to be too simple/limited and XML files are non standard and not always supported outside Redmond. Here is one example of using JSon files and the XML equivelent: http://json.org/example.html This is of course is assuming a Postcard type web site. If security is a requirement the site will need a full BE with secure connections and databases. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 3:36:25 AM Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Oct 14 15:53:01 2016 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:53:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1155431525.107785555.1476478381319.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> :-) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 9:19:48 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Jim That sounds as a viable option. Actually, I did consider JSON but somehow got away from it. Now that I look at the examples of your link, I can see that - for my purpose - such files will be easily human readable, thus the minor changes to be made once or twice per year can easily be carried out with minimal work. Also, several good libraries for handling JSON exist for .Net, so I will not have to reinvent anything. Thanks for the wake up. Gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 8. oktober 2016 20:07 Til: Development in Visual Studio Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Gustav: This is my opinion but judging by what the webdesigners are using, I would recommend JSons files. Text files tend to be too simple/limited and XML files are non standard and not always supported outside Redmond. Here is one example of using JSon files and the XML equivelent: http://json.org/example.html This is of course is assuming a Postcard type web site. If security is a requirement the site will need a full BE with secure connections and databases. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 3:36:25 AM Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Oct 14 17:18:02 2016 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:18:02 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1606201361.107840337.1476483482311.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Are there any mainstream CMSs made in .Net, that are inexpensive? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:14:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Scott No ... but it certainly looks neat. Except that I don't do PHP. I'll keep the link, should anyone ask me about a handy CMS. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Scott Marcus Sendt: 7. oktober 2016 20:02 Til: 'Development in Visual Studio' Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Have you looked at Grav? https://getgrav.org/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dw-murphy at cox.net Fri Oct 14 17:56:40 2016 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 15:56:40 -0700 Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00dc01d2266e$39bea860$ad3bf920$@cox.net> DotNetNuke. I use the free open source version and it works well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:18 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Are there any mainstream CMSs made in .Net, that are inexpensive? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:14:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Scott No ... but it certainly looks neat. Except that I don't do PHP. I'll keep the link, should anyone ask me about a handy CMS. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Scott Marcus Sendt: 7. oktober 2016 20:02 Til: 'Development in Visual Studio' Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Have you looked at Grav? https://getgrav.org/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dw-murphy at cox.net Fri Oct 14 17:58:17 2016 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 15:58:17 -0700 Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00dd01d2266e$738834d0$5a989e70$@cox.net> Sorry, didn't look at the subject. Don't think DNN incorporates MVC. The version I used uses web forms. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:18 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Are there any mainstream CMSs made in .Net, that are inexpensive? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:14:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Scott No ... but it certainly looks neat. Except that I don't do PHP. I'll keep the link, should anyone ask me about a handy CMS. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Scott Marcus Sendt: 7. oktober 2016 20:02 Til: 'Development in Visual Studio' Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Have you looked at Grav? https://getgrav.org/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Oct 14 18:05:27 2016 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:05:27 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: <00dc01d2266e$39bea860$ad3bf920$@cox.net> Message-ID: <1334403217.107869759.1476486327906.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Oh yes, I should have remembered that one. I had heard that the main version is no longer in my price range (free) so I did not pursue adoption of it any longer. Maybe you could post some clarification? TIA Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:56:40 PM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content DotNetNuke. I use the free open source version and it works well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:18 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Are there any mainstream CMSs made in .Net, that are inexpensive? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:14:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Scott No ... but it certainly looks neat. Except that I don't do PHP. I'll keep the link, should anyone ask me about a handy CMS. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Scott Marcus Sendt: 7. oktober 2016 20:02 Til: 'Development in Visual Studio' Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Have you looked at Grav? https://getgrav.org/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dw-murphy at cox.net Fri Oct 14 18:12:50 2016 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:12:50 -0700 Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: References: <00dc01d2266e$39bea860$ad3bf920$@cox.net> Message-ID: <00e101d22670$7c369430$74a3bc90$@cox.net> See http://www.dnnsoftware.com/community/download. Many windows hosting companies have the DNN configuration files available on their systems. You can find it through the web control panel. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:05 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Oh yes, I should have remembered that one. I had heard that the main version is no longer in my price range (free) so I did not pursue adoption of it any longer. Maybe you could post some clarification? TIA Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:56:40 PM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content DotNetNuke. I use the free open source version and it works well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:18 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Are there any mainstream CMSs made in .Net, that are inexpensive? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:14:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Scott No ... but it certainly looks neat. Except that I don't do PHP. I'll keep the link, should anyone ask me about a handy CMS. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Scott Marcus Sendt: 7. oktober 2016 20:02 Til: 'Development in Visual Studio' Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Have you looked at Grav? https://getgrav.org/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Oct 14 18:28:45 2016 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:28:45 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: <00dd01d2266e$738834d0$5a989e70$@cox.net> Message-ID: <1968807127.107885382.1476487725926.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Is there an easy cost effective path to ASP.NET MVC development? Is the product complex to deploy or is it user-friendly? How good is the product's performance and what sort of resources are necessary to roll out a server, that supports it? Are the add-ons cheap, expensive or complex; printer interface, Adobe pages? Does it accommodate other languages? Does this product deploy on Linux servers? Does it have interfaces to other data servers other than just MS SQL? Is there end-to-end encryption built is? Sorry to hit you with all these questions but you seem to be the first expert that I have run into. My other friends have dabbled with it but they are hardly experts. Aside: Many of my younger friends who are in still the business, work exclusively in Linux and just glaze over when I mention Microsoft. So I am one of these people that still has a foot in both camps. Most of the old guys, like me, are basically out of the business and the younger ones couldn't care less. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:58:17 PM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Sorry, didn't look at the subject. Don't think DNN incorporates MVC. The version I used uses web forms. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:18 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Are there any mainstream CMSs made in .Net, that are inexpensive? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:14:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Scott No ... but it certainly looks neat. Except that I don't do PHP. I'll keep the link, should anyone ask me about a handy CMS. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Scott Marcus Sendt: 7. oktober 2016 20:02 Til: 'Development in Visual Studio' Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Have you looked at Grav? https://getgrav.org/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dw-murphy at cox.net Fri Oct 14 18:47:22 2016 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:47:22 -0700 Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: References: <00dd01d2266e$738834d0$5a989e70$@cox.net> Message-ID: <00e201d22675$4f4c1120$ede43360$@cox.net> Jim, My only experience is with Windows server, hosted sites. Have used on Arvixe, and Godaddy hosting. There is lots of info on the DNN forums, much of the info is from the folks who maintain the Open Source version. I have used several of the commercial extensions. The ones we used were reasonably priced. We used one of the commercial skin packages to get a nice look to our site. The site I put together for our, now pretty much defunct user group AUGSD.org was one of the built in skins. That is about all I can help you with. Doug -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:29 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Is there an easy cost effective path to ASP.NET MVC development? Is the product complex to deploy or is it user-friendly? How good is the product's performance and what sort of resources are necessary to roll out a server, that supports it? Are the add-ons cheap, expensive or complex; printer interface, Adobe pages? Does it accommodate other languages? Does this product deploy on Linux servers? Does it have interfaces to other data servers other than just MS SQL? Is there end-to-end encryption built is? Sorry to hit you with all these questions but you seem to be the first expert that I have run into. My other friends have dabbled with it but they are hardly experts. Aside: Many of my younger friends who are in still the business, work exclusively in Linux and just glaze over when I mention Microsoft. So I am one of these people that still has a foot in both camps. Most of the old guys, like me, are basically out of the business and the younger ones couldn't care less. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:58:17 PM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Sorry, didn't look at the subject. Don't think DNN incorporates MVC. The version I used uses web forms. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:18 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Are there any mainstream CMSs made in .Net, that are inexpensive? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:14:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Scott No ... but it certainly looks neat. Except that I don't do PHP. I'll keep the link, should anyone ask me about a handy CMS. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Scott Marcus Sendt: 7. oktober 2016 20:02 Til: 'Development in Visual Studio' Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Have you looked at Grav? https://getgrav.org/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Oct 14 18:55:35 2016 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:55:35 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: <00e101d22670$7c369430$74a3bc90$@cox.net> Message-ID: <1853565118.107901023.1476489335151.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Thanks for the link Doug. I do have a couple of Windows servers but they are starting to show their age or more likely my perception of performance just keeps changing. I will attempt to run DNN up in a virtual, on a fast Linux box so I can at least give the product a one to one performance comparison. I will keep you posted Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:12:50 PM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content See http://www.dnnsoftware.com/community/download. Many windows hosting companies have the DNN configuration files available on their systems. You can find it through the web control panel. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:05 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Oh yes, I should have remembered that one. I had heard that the main version is no longer in my price range (free) so I did not pursue adoption of it any longer. Maybe you could post some clarification? TIA Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:56:40 PM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content DotNetNuke. I use the free open source version and it works well. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:18 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Are there any mainstream CMSs made in .Net, that are inexpensive? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:14:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Scott No ... but it certainly looks neat. Except that I don't do PHP. I'll keep the link, should anyone ask me about a handy CMS. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Scott Marcus Sendt: 7. oktober 2016 20:02 Til: 'Development in Visual Studio' Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Have you looked at Grav? https://getgrav.org/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Oct 14 19:44:25 2016 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:44:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: <00e201d22675$4f4c1120$ede43360$@cox.net> Message-ID: <1971553528.107923926.1476492265755.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Hi Doug: I took the liberty to check out the San Diego website. It looks good and clean. I do have a couple of Windows servers but they appear to be running a lot slower these days...it is probably just perception. I would like to try and run up DNN virtual/mono on a fast Linux server and then maybe, if everything can be made to work, port it into a Cloud droplet. ($5.00 a month is pretty cheap, the room adequate, the processing power is more than enough but the broadband throughput is incredible). I have been looking for information on installing DNN on Linux. There are lots of posts but they are all dated back to 2005? What is going on? Did people start losing interest? Has Microsoft stopped supporting the project or started supporting some other application? Do you have any good current links? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:47:22 PM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Jim, My only experience is with Windows server, hosted sites. Have used on Arvixe, and Godaddy hosting. There is lots of info on the DNN forums, much of the info is from the folks who maintain the Open Source version. I have used several of the commercial extensions. The ones we used were reasonably priced. We used one of the commercial skin packages to get a nice look to our site. The site I put together for our, now pretty much defunct user group AUGSD.org was one of the built in skins. That is about all I can help you with. Doug -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:29 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Is there an easy cost effective path to ASP.NET MVC development? Is the product complex to deploy or is it user-friendly? How good is the product's performance and what sort of resources are necessary to roll out a server, that supports it? Are the add-ons cheap, expensive or complex; printer interface, Adobe pages? Does it accommodate other languages? Does this product deploy on Linux servers? Does it have interfaces to other data servers other than just MS SQL? Is there end-to-end encryption built is? Sorry to hit you with all these questions but you seem to be the first expert that I have run into. My other friends have dabbled with it but they are hardly experts. Aside: Many of my younger friends who are in still the business, work exclusively in Linux and just glaze over when I mention Microsoft. So I am one of these people that still has a foot in both camps. Most of the old guys, like me, are basically out of the business and the younger ones couldn't care less. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:58:17 PM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Sorry, didn't look at the subject. Don't think DNN incorporates MVC. The version I used uses web forms. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:18 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Are there any mainstream CMSs made in .Net, that are inexpensive? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:14:37 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Scott No ... but it certainly looks neat. Except that I don't do PHP. I'll keep the link, should anyone ask me about a handy CMS. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Scott Marcus Sendt: 7. oktober 2016 20:02 Til: 'Development in Visual Studio' Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Have you looked at Grav? https://getgrav.org/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:36 AM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi all I'm working with a small low-traffic website that mostly will contain pages (partial views) with text like articles - title, subtitle, body perhaps with some links and lists. Much like a miniature CMS, but while the layout will be fixed, the content may have to be edited over time. My first thought was simply to store the content stubs in discrete text files which easily could be replaced without rebuilding the site, but just naming these files quickly will be a mess, I think. Then I thought of a database, but isn't that overkill? Also, that will require an "admin" section or separate app or the like to edit the content, and then the project suddenly escalates. So is there something in between simple files and a database, that my lack of fantasy is leaving out? I also thought of XML files, which I have used before with some success, but that was for traditional data storage, not text blocks. Further, how do you go about editing the content as HTML? I will only need basic attributes like bold, link, and list. Do you write up the content in an HTML editor, save this, and then retrieve it as raw HTML? /gustav _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Sat Oct 15 02:58:29 2016 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 07:58:29 +0000 Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: <1968807127.107885382.1476487725926.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <00dd01d2266e$738834d0$5a989e70$@cox.net>, <1968807127.107885382.1476487725926.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Hi Jim First and foremost: Umbraco: https://umbraco.com/ Then, CMS Composite C1, now CMS Orchestra C1: http://docs.cms.orckestra.com/Getting-started/Download It seems to go well with custom MVC projects: http://docs.composite.net/Functions/MVC Also, for its specific purpose, though not an MVC project, BlogEngine: http://dotnetblogengine.net/ I haven't worked with any of these, so I can't tell you more. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 15. oktober 2016 01:28 Til: Development in Visual Studio Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Is there an easy cost effective path to ASP.NET MVC development? Is the product complex to deploy or is it user-friendly? How good is the product's performance and what sort of resources are necessary to roll out a server, that supports it? Are the add-ons cheap, expensive or complex; printer interface, Adobe pages? Does it accommodate other languages? Does this product deploy on Linux servers? Does it have interfaces to other data servers other than just MS SQL? Is there end-to-end encryption built is? Sorry to hit you with all these questions but you seem to be the first expert that I have run into. My other friends have dabbled with it but they are hardly experts. Aside: Many of my younger friends who are in still the business, work exclusively in Linux and just glaze over when I mention Microsoft. So I am one of these people that still has a foot in both camps. Most of the old guys, like me, are basically out of the business and the younger ones couldn't care less. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:58:17 PM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Sorry, didn't look at the subject. Don't think DNN incorporates MVC. The version I used uses web forms. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:18 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Are there any mainstream CMSs made in .Net, that are inexpensive? Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Oct 15 15:47:01 2016 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:47:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1073630998.108341964.1476564421261.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Thanks so much Gustav. I will check out all the links...I was hoping there was something out there, that was Microsoft based other than DNN, which seems to be disappearing for some reason.(?) Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:58:29 AM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Hi Jim First and foremost: Umbraco: https://umbraco.com/ Then, CMS Composite C1, now CMS Orchestra C1: http://docs.cms.orckestra.com/Getting-started/Download It seems to go well with custom MVC projects: http://docs.composite.net/Functions/MVC Also, for its specific purpose, though not an MVC project, BlogEngine: http://dotnetblogengine.net/ I haven't worked with any of these, so I can't tell you more. /gustav ________________________________________ Fra: dba-VS p? vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 15. oktober 2016 01:28 Til: Development in Visual Studio Emne: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Is there an easy cost effective path to ASP.NET MVC development? Is the product complex to deploy or is it user-friendly? How good is the product's performance and what sort of resources are necessary to roll out a server, that supports it? Are the add-ons cheap, expensive or complex; printer interface, Adobe pages? Does it accommodate other languages? Does this product deploy on Linux servers? Does it have interfaces to other data servers other than just MS SQL? Is there end-to-end encryption built is? Sorry to hit you with all these questions but you seem to be the first expert that I have run into. My other friends have dabbled with it but they are hardly experts. Aside: Many of my younger friends who are in still the business, work exclusively in Linux and just glaze over when I mention Microsoft. So I am one of these people that still has a foot in both camps. Most of the old guys, like me, are basically out of the business and the younger ones couldn't care less. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "Development in Visual Studio" Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:58:17 PM Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Sorry, didn't look at the subject. Don't think DNN incorporates MVC. The version I used uses web forms. -----Original Message----- From: dba-VS [mailto:dba-vs-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:18 PM To: Development in Visual Studio Subject: Re: [dba-VS] ASP.NET MVC: Retrieve HTML encoded content Are there any mainstream CMSs made in .Net, that are inexpensive? Jim _______________________________________________ dba-VS mailing list dba-VS at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vs http://www.databaseadvisors.com From paul.hartland at googlemail.com Thu Oct 20 02:12:11 2016 From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 08:12:11 +0100 Subject: [dba-VS] Examples In Best Coding VB.net Message-ID: To all, Being self-taught and not had much time to actually spend with VB.net I now find myself with a little time to try and learn it properly, don;t really want to go through a step-by-step learning process, I seem to be able to pick things up quicker through working examples etc. So could anyone point me in the right direction for (should I say) best coding examples, doesn't have to be massive just would like to see the best and most effiicient ways to link even a single form to a SQL Server BE, say a name and address form. I have looked using searches and so many examples out there with different ways, but I trust the people on here to guide me in the right direction, as I believe just a simple form that will show me the best way to select, update, delete and insert records is enough to start me. The reason I am after this is that I have a Access manufacturing process application dedicated to a certain industry and want to rewrite it in vb.net and SQL as well, I could probably get something up and running but want it to be as slick as it can be as I may look at selling it afterwards. Thank you so much for any help in advance. -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com From df.waters at outlook.com Sat Oct 22 09:50:22 2016 From: df.waters at outlook.com (Dan Waters) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 14:50:22 +0000 Subject: [dba-VS] [AccessD] Examples In Best Coding VB.net In-Reply-To: <580B177B.27792.13347082@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: , <580B177B.27792.13347082@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: If you use LINQPad to view the SQL language you'll see that it's pretty good! But then - clowns don't use LINQPad do they? -----Original Message----- From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 2:39 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Examples In Best Coding VB.net > LINQ resolves to optimized SQL language to give you great performance. ROTFLMAO! Just had a website bring a shared server to its knees because of LINQ resolving to the following "optimised" SQL: (Admittedly the developer is a bit of a clown who doesn't really understand realtional databases - He took a view from an in house server that was based on 6 related tables and dumped the output of that view as a flat table - hence the SQL is drawing data from a wide table containing 4.5million records named [dbo].[vw_SearchElectorDetails] ) You will note that it actually pulls the entire table as a recordset which is then used as the source of the actual select. SELECT [Extent1].[LName] AS [LName], [Extent1].[FName] AS [FName], [Extent1].[Gender] AS [Gender], [Extent1].[Address] AS [Address], [Extent1].[DOB] AS [DOB], [Extent1].[ElectorPK] AS [ElectorPK], [Extent1].[LocationName] AS [LocationName], [Extent1].[WardName] AS [WardName], [Extent1].[LLGName] AS [LLGName], [Extent1].[DistrictName] AS [DistrictName], [Extent1].[ProvinceName] AS [ProvinceName] FROM (SELECT [vw_SearchElectorDetails].[LName] AS [LName], [vw_SearchElectorDetails].[FName] AS [FName], [vw_SearchElectorDetails].[Gender] AS [Gender], [vw_SearchElectorDetails].[Address] AS [Address], [vw_SearchElectorDetails].[DOB] AS [DOB], [vw_SearchElectorDetails].[ElectorPK] AS [ElectorPK], [vw_SearchElectorDetails].[LocationName] AS [LocationName], [vw_SearchElectorDetails].[WardName] AS [WardName], [vw_SearchElectorDetails].[LLGName] AS [LLGName], [vw_Search ElectorDetails].[DistrictName] AS [DistrictName], [vw_SearchElectorDetails].[ProvinceName] AS [ProvinceName] FROM [dbo].[vw_SearchElectorDetails] AS [vw_SearchElectorDetails]) AS [Extent1] WHERE [Extent1].[LName] = @p__linq__0 -- Stuart On 21 Oct 2016 at 15:46, Dan Waters wrote: ... > I also made the choice to use LINQ as the data layer between my > application and SQL server. And this is really the way to go. It > gives you intellisense while you're writing code for CRUD operations > and you'll get error indicators on-screen if you've done something > wrong. Also - buy a copy of LINQPad Pro - it's a great sandbox for > writing LINQ queries. LINQ resolves to optimized SQL language to give > you great performance. > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com