Brett Barabash
BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com
Fri Feb 21 08:25:00 CST 2003
>Greater than 95% or the market uses 17 inch (or greater) monitors so most >web sites use 600 x 800 resolution. I use dual 17" monitors at 800x600, and I am finding an alarming amount of websites that don't even display properly at 800x600 (eBay for example!). >Less than 5% of the market uses NS browsers that are older than version >6. Yet many commercial sites like Yahoo hack their sites up to ensure that it will work on "every" browser! I read an interesting article referenced on Slashdot a while back that talked about this wasteful phenomena. The real world doesn't have the resources to cater to Lynx 1.0 users... >4. Flash has a 96% penetration of the web users. Web plug-ins are an interesting issue, since they are one thing the user has little control over. Want to hear an audio sample? Don't have RealPlayer? Tough luck, download it or get lost! The majority of the 96% likely downloaded Flash because they wanted to view specific "cool" content on another site. Now, if someone visits my site for the first time, and gets a download prompt (so they can view the navigation buttons), I would wager that more than 4% would give up and leave. If you have the link to the page, I'd love to see it! And remember, 43.7% of statistics are made up on the fly! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:58 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for ColbyConsul ting Hi Brett: Just a comment...I took a ten month course on web commerce, last year and a lot of design improvements are implemented using statistics to decide which standards are embraced and which standards are abandoned. The school purchased a full set of stats from an online web statistical gathering site. (if anyone wants I will track down the URL but be warned it costs.) The decisions whether a particular layout or technology was to be utilized depended a lot on its percentage of market penetration coupled with it rate of disappearance. Student site were marked on their adoption of new feature but only if it did not adversely a too large percentage of the market. Example: 1. Greater than 95% or the market uses 17 inch (or greater) monitors so most web sites use 600 x 800 resolution. 2. Less than 3% of the viewing market can not view a full colour palette so the 'web-safe' colour concept is a non issue. 3. Less than 5% of the market uses NS browsers that are older than version 6. 4. Flash has a 96% penetration of the web users. and so on... A developer has to weight the cost of supporting a shrinking fringe group and traditionally, on smaller sites, a client is reluctant to pay for fifty percent of their cost for less than 5% of their viewing audience. It is not fair but that is the way it is Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:09 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for ColbyConsul ting I've been reading this thread with great interest. I was thinking about investing in Dreamweaver, but it seems to create Flash-centric sites. I guess this would make sense since Macromedia owns the technology. For other Dreamweaver users out there: Does it offer viable alternatives to using Flash (e.g. animated GIFs)? > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:00 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for > ColbyConsulting > > Well, here's a new one. I have been viewing my site this whole time. > Installed Mozilla and it informed my I had to download the flash widget > (button). Why? It had to be installed for IE to run. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Seth Galitzer > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:47 AM > To: accessd > Subject: Re: Netscape with IE - was RE: [AccessD] New look for > ColbyConsulting > > > John, > > you can have any number of browsers on your system, but each one will > try to "take over" the association of .htm files when you launch it. I > believe you can disable this behavior in many of them, but each one is > different. As for browsers, here are a couple of the major players: > > Mozilla (NS7 is based on this, so if it looks good here, it will look > good on NS7 as well; so is the Phoenix browser) > http://www.mozilla.org/ > > Opera (shareware, but fully functional) > http://www.opera.com/ > > Netscape (4.x, no longer distributed, but still widely used; VERY > different fron NS7) > http://wp.netscape.com/download/archive/client_archive47x.html > > There are a raft of other alternative browsers here: > http://download.com.com/3150-2356-0.html?tag=dir > > but the three I mentioned above are probably the most common > > Download away... > > Seth > > On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 09:19, John W. Colby wrote: > > Does anyone know if Netscape and IE will now co-exist. In the olden > days > > you could trash a computer by trying to install both at the same time. > > Also, could someone point me to some other browsers I can download (for > free > > - no money to do this). > > > > John W. Colby > > Colby Consulting > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > -- > Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu > Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax > Dept. of Plant Pathology > Kansas State University > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com