[AccessD] Access 2002 database format

Mike and Doris Manning mikedorism at ntelos.net
Wed Feb 26 20:25:01 CST 2003


An ADP is not supposed to have any tables.  The meat of the database is
supposed to reside in the server (in my case SQL Server 2000) that you are
connected to.

What you are saying might make sense if and ADP was somehow storing info
somewhere outside of that connection.  According to MS documentation that is
not supposed to be the case.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 06:19 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2002 database format


Doris,

I haven't created any ADPs so forgive this question: Does your ADP file have
any hidden tables?  From the KB article it sounds like the MSysAccessStorage
table keeps track of module code (somehow?), and modules are part of the
ADP.  So it might make sense that the MSysAccessStorage table is actually in
the ADP as a hidden system file.

So, does this table exist in your ADP?

Thanks
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2002 database format


Charles,

I was under the impression that was the *definition* of bloat.  Doris did
point out that she only recovered the space when she copied into a new
container, not just when she closed and reopened the adp.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2002 database format


Doris,

That is not bloat.  That is the normal action of Access when it needs
temporary space that it then releases when it is through with it.  Bloat is
when it grabs space and does not release it when it is no longer needed.

Charles Wortz
Software Development Division
Texas Education Agency
1701 N. Congress Ave
Austin, TX 78701-1494
512-463-9493
CWortz at tea.state.tx.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] 
Sent: Wednesday 2003 Feb 26 14:57
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2002 database format

There may not be any tables but the bloat still applies... I have one ADP
that balloons up to 38MB and then shrinks down to 25MB when I pull
everything into a new container.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
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