Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
Mon Mar 10 04:59:00 CST 2003
<<< > Throughout the entire process, the Germans seemed to have > the view that they were delighted to have people > visit their counrty. >>> Hello Mark, I've heard that Germany embassy is much friendly now for Visum applicant than other western embassies. I should have asked for invitation from Lembit! :) But it's to late now - I plan to try to reapply tomorrow for another type of Visum and maybe talk to the Consul if they let me in... The problem is that when they reject application they can stamp our passports with "wolf mark" - and then other Shengen embassies may treat my docs badly from the very begiining... ...I'm sick and tired of all that - it eats so much time and money and nervuous energy but I've to solve it now peaceful way and then maybe always use friendly German or Finnish embassies to get Shengen visum (although it can be a trouble to pass customs of other Shengen countries with such visum if I fly directly to their cities - I've heard stories here when GERMAN custom control put a man into airport jail for one night and then sent him back to Russia because he had NETHERLANDS Shengen visum)... "IRON CURTAIN" - is it now built around Shegen Area? I just want to go there with my kids and to meet my friends and I've cash money/credit cards and I speak English well and I know how to travel their and I lived and worked and travelled there for quite some time and a lot fo times - that's just a crazy dream... THNX for your support, Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark L. Breen" <subs at solution-providers.ie> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "Chevaux de frise" of free world... > Hello Shamil, > > I heard of a story last year from a friend. > > He telephoned the French embasssey and asked how long it would take to get a > visa to travel to France. Of course, he mentioned his nationality, because > he is non-EU. The French guy said five working days. He went and bought > his tickets. When he went to get the French visa, they then said "Oh no, it > will take three to six weeks". He then tried the Netherlands and they > wanted to wait nine weeks. These were the two countries that he was > visiting. > > So, he had an idea, he telephoned the German embassy and asked the same > question. They said five days. So he seached for a hotel in Germany, and > made a reservation. He then asked the reservations department to send him > his reservations confirmation by fax. > > Using this, he then was able to request a multi-entry shengen visa from the > very helpful German embassey. He visited France, Belgium and Netherlands, > but did not make Germany and had no problems anywhere. In the German > embassy, the official asked why you are flying to France, he just said > because it is a direct flight with ryanair and it is inexpensive. The > German official was happy with this. Throughout the entire process, the > Germans seemed to have the view that they were delighted to have people > visit their counrty. > > I would agree with Marty, it is a cost of doing business, but even it was > pleasure, some battles you cannot win. It certainly makes you crazy. > > Best of luck, > > Mark > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:48 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "Chevaux de frise" of free world... > > > > I would write it off as the cost of doing business, it isn't worth the > > hassle to complain about some minor functionary or bureaucrat who > > probably doesn't understand all the rules and is too afraid to ask. I > > have run into the same thing with Canadian External Affairs in embassies > > overseas and got into arguments, only to find out it was local citizens > > handling the Visa sections run by one Canadian national who was too busy > > to oversee them what with all his demands of having to attend functions > > at the local Jockey club and golf course. Lodging a complaint against > > External Affairs is generally useless unless you threaten them with a > > press expose or high political action from their minister. > > I would get your partner to complain through his Dutch member of > > parliament, if you really > > wanted to raise the issue further. > > > > By the way the here is a description and cost of a Schengen Visa plus a > > pdf of the form from Dutch > > embassy in Washington. > > > > http://www.netherlands-embassy.org/article.asp?articleref=AR00000396EN > > > > Of course you could always expend some time filling in a Green Card > > lottery form for permanent residence in US (odds 1:100) rather than > > expending the time on a complaint. Better to light a candle than curse > > the darkness. > > > > http://www.usnis.org/ > > > > I have got my own back at times on Immigration types, once in Lagos > > Nigeria I was asked for > > dash ,mordida or baksheesh; to expedite my getting out of the country at > > the airport. So I reached into my throwdown wallet (in case of robbery) > > and pulled out a fistfull of Canadian Tire money > > (these are discount coupons that look like money in amounts of 10 cents > > through a dollar put out > > by an a Canadian Automotive chain store) explained to the guy I didn't > > have US cash but here was > > Canadian money. I could barely keep a straight face. > > > > Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote: > > > > >Hi All, > > > > > >I'm sorry I'm writing about that here - I just went very crazy today > about > > >what they - Western Embassies and Consulates here and their bosses in Den > > >Haage (Netherlands) are doing... > > > > > >Here is a fresh story: > > > > > >- I applied for business Visum (15 days of staying, one entry) several > days > > >ago for me and my two children(15 and 17 years old) (IMPORTANT NOTE: her > e > > >in Consualate General they ACCEPTED this application for BUSINESS visum > and > > >they checked all the docs carefully) - to make that I prepared all the > > >needed paperwork, get original invitation from my partner from > Netherlands > > >(DHL, second day delivery = rather expensive), even changed the passports > to > > >make them fresh new (some more bucks) because at first they said that the > > >ones I had aren't good, PAID for their "services"(not that much but > should > > >be enough for a rather good dinner for three I think) and I started to > > >wait... > > >And BTW I spent quite some time on all that prepations and quite some > > >bucks in total... > > > > > >Do you know what answer I've got today? (in fact my Netherland's partner > was > > >called from Den Haage - Ministry of Foreign Affairs) - they said I should > > >have applied for TOURISTIC not BUSINESS visum because I plan to go with > my > > >kids but as I mentioned above here they CHECKED all the docs and ACCEPTED > > >them... > > > > > >Should I fight with them looking for truth with the risk to be written in > > >their "black lists" forever? > > >Or should I give up and accept the "rules" of their game? - there is a > whole > > >business around them here - and one (including any kinds of criminals > etc.) > > >can buy for money any kind of Visum and freely enter West Europe or > States > > >or Canada... > > > > > >I wanted to make it direct and according to all the laws and I didn't > want > > >to pay to the "shadow business around them" any extra money - and I've > got > > >NOTHING - or I'd better say I and my partner in Netherlands got real > > >mockery... And they were harsh not only with me - they were that hostile > > >with my Netherland's partner too - how it comes? > > > > > >Shamil > > > > > >P.S. I know, probably Russian Embassies do something like that there in > West > > >Europe - but should it justify what they are doing here these ambassadors > of > > >"civilized" free world? > > > > > >-- > > >e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru > > >Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >AccessD mailing list > > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com