[AccessD] Access to SQL Server over Hamachi - it WORKS

Darryl Collins Darryl.Collins at iag.com.au
Sun Jan 16 23:50:38 CST 2011


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heh, I was thinking exactly that, but didn't want to mention the war ;)
Seriously, pull in (unbound) just what the users asked for and nothing more, update it back to SQL Server the same way.

And thanks for the update John, you really do want to publish this stuff.  I know am I going to learn heaps for this experience.

cheers
Darryl.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, 17 January 2011 4:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to SQL Server over Hamachi - it WORKS

I think we have been arguing this forever but at the risk of starting
another bound/unbound war here is the following.

Who binds MS SQL Server to any forms? That is why a programmer uses a real
SQL Server... no binding is really necessary. 

...and that will cut your performance drag dramatically.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to SQL Server over Hamachi - it WORKS

 > Wow... so what are you going to do next week?

Access 2007 run-time!

If (when) that works then I finish a basic FE and deliver it to the client
for a look see.

 > The truth is that ADO plays nice with them all.

In code.  Binding forms not so much.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

On 1/16/2011 11:35 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Wow... so what are you going to do next week?
>
> The truth is that ADO plays nice with them all. I have been using ADO-OLE
> since Access97 with no problems what so ever. ;-)
>
> Moving the queries into Stored Procedures is a slow process but MS SQL
> Server Migration Assistant Wizard for Access is supposed to solve all that
> but I have been having some issues making it work with an Access2003 MDB.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 7:21 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; VBA; Sqlserver-Dba
> Subject: [AccessD] Access to SQL Server over Hamachi - it WORKS
>
> Today I stepped back and set it all up internal to my network.
>
> Yesterday I had moved the Fe to my laptop.  Today I deleted all of my
linked
> tables, then I relinked
> all of the tables.  In doing so I created a new DSN where I hit the SQL
> Server directly at the
> Hamachi IP address.  Relinked using this new DSN and voila, she's a
wurkin,
> and lightning fast over
> my internal network but forcing the traffic through Hamachi.
>
> So I tested a bit, then went back out to the local Arby's where I was
pretty
> much unable to do
> anything last night (other than browse the internet).  Got right on the
> connection, opened the
> Access FE and voila, she's a wurkin, and lightning fast.  You wouldn't
know
> you weren't directly on
> my LAN.
>
> Access on my laptop over Hamachi, over a public network, in to my network,
> directly into a Virtual
> Machine over Hamachi, running SQL Server 2008 Express.
>
> I am so jazzed!  that leaves me with one technical barrier now, getting an
> Access 2007 run-time to
> host an Access 2003 FE.
>
> Now I need to set up a VM to run on my laptop so that I can have an
> environment without Office
> installed.  Install the Access 2007 run-time and drop the Access 2003 Fe
in
> place.  Set up Hamachi
> on that VM and then get it all playing nice.
>
> This will allow me to take my laptop on the road to demo the system.
>
> We shall see.
>
> And yes Jim, I understand I still need to cause SQL Server to do the heavy
> lifting.  To this point I
> have never really used SQL Server as the BE for Access.  My biggest client
> uses Access 2K and it
> doesn't really play nice with ADO.  Since I can now develop these new
> databases in 2003, I can do
> things like bind the form to an ADO recordset and still have it
read/write.
> I will need to learn
> how to use a stored procedure were I can pass in a PK and have the SP
return
> a table of data already
> selected and sorted.  I.e. SQL Server doing the lifting.
>
> The nice thing is that these are small databases so I can do things like
> leave the list tables just
> linked, at least for awhile while I learn all the stuff I have never had
to
> do.
>
> Next up, 2007 run-time.
>
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