[dba-Tech] Security measures - Windows 2K Updates

Jon Tydda Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk
Thu Aug 28 05:16:53 CDT 2003


it saves them as temporary files which won't be deleted when you do a disk
clean up... if you've got a few pc's to install the upgrades on, or a slow
bandwidth connection, I'd recommend downloading the big patches from the
catalogue site - win2k sp4 is 130mb!!! I downloaded the big updates and let
the individual machines get the smaller ones themselves.
 
 
Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Tortise at Paradise [mailto:tortise at paradise.net.nz] 
Sent: 28 August 2003 11:07
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Security measures - Windows 2K Updates


mmm
Seems there are two options - control panel / Automatic updates / "Download
the updates automatically and notify me again before installing them on my
computer" - But where does this save the files???   There is no option
given.  The beauty of this is it is automatic and does not involve the very
manual process of going to the Microsoft download site (2nd option) and
selecting stuff to download.   But perhaps this is a little ahead of what is
available???  (I'd like to select them at this point and copy the files I
want to other PC's)
I must say the NAV updates seem to work pretty well, need the occasional
re-boot, but are pretty reliable.  Presumably this model has impressed
Microsoft as being workable.
Kind regards,
David 
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jon Tydda <mailto:Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk>  
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and  <mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures - Windcows Updates


If you go to www.microsoft.com/downloads
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads>  you can find all the big downloads
there. Download them and save them onto a central pc/file server and share
them across the network. That's what I do at work... Got SP4, ie6 sp1,
directx9.0b etc... I only download the smaller updates and driver files on
individual pc's.

If you have a windows 2000 server (running the server edition of the
software), you might want to look into the SUS (System Updates Service) at
microsoft.com. I've been looking at implementing it here, but they seem
reluctant to give me a new server just to install updates. I might point out
how if I could have got all the lovsan patches on quicker, we might not have
lost a couple of days to repatching and virus scanning everything again :-)


Jon 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tortise at Paradise [mailto:tortise at paradise.net.nz
<mailto:tortise at paradise.net.nz> ] 
Sent: 28 August 2003 00:05 
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues 
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Security measures - Windcows Updates 


Hi 
I am experimenting with Windows Updates. 
What I'd like to know, is, given they can be such HUGE files how do I manage
the loading i.e. can one machine download them, hold them, (As is an option)
and then they be applied to all machines my side of the firewall without
being downloaded by each of em? Kind regards, David Engines2Go - Now THAT's
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Colby" <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com> 
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:19 AM 
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures 


It's strange that so many people report problems with Windows updates.  I
have 4 computers - an OLD dual Pentium II 233, a "newer" Toshiba laptop PII
233, and two ~2 year old "modern" computers (1.4g AMD Athlon - "homebuilt").
I run windows update religiously and have never had a problem on any of
them.  Win2K Pro, Office 97/2k/XP, NAV, etc.

Further I was the Sys Admin for the screw company and regularly updated
their ~12 computers - Gateway / Dell.  Always just applied all SPs, updates.
Always worked.

John W. Colby 
www.colbyconsulting.com 



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