[dba-Tech] Opinions please

MartyConnelly martyconnelly at shaw.ca
Wed Dec 31 12:14:45 CST 2003


Another method is a Ghost Image Backup to a portable BackPack 60 Gig 
drive via a USB 2 port.
You would have to restore to original machine I think but would handle a 
drive failure. Cost about
$300 for drive and Software.

Dan Waters wrote:

>Drew and William,
>
>Thanks for the training!
>
>There was a lot more to this than I had guessed.  What I do now is simply
>backup selected data files to a CD every 3 days using Disk-to-Disk.  So, if
>my HD did crash I would still have critical files but my recovery time could
>be a few days - so having a mirrored HD that would let me 'keep on truckin'
>would be pretty handy!
>
>Thanks for all this information,
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
>Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:02 PM
>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Opinions please
>
>
>Dan
>
>...assumes you have a MB which supports RAID which more and more do these
>days (one of the reasons I still build my own) ...or you buy mirroring
>software or a RAID card neither of which I've used except on servers ...its
>a physical duplication of your master drive onto a slave as every write
>occurs ...you pay a performance price for the second access and write of
>course but its marginalized by the RAID read speedup ...and with a current
>processor you won't notice it anyway.
>
>...as Drew noted, its physical protection only since software corruptions
>would occur on both ...but still, its cheap and once in play you hardly
>realize its there doing its thing in the background ...if you've ever had a
>HD crash, a mirror is a godsend since the hardware automatically defaults to
>using the mirror and you just get a warning pop-up ...life and work go on
>and you have time to address the problem at your convenience.
>
>...since I now use XP Pro only and have System Restore automated, I don't
>sweat the system software corruption problems ...but make damn sure your
>System Restore is really working by actually testing it ...XP can be
>misleading in the setup and leave you unprotected ...but it does work quite
>well ...a recent bug in a Symantec auto-update kept giving me blue screens
>...I stepped back through the restore points until they went away.
>
>...I also use the built-in Backup scheduling facility to automate protecting
>my critical data files ...its there, easy to use, and disk space is cheap
>...I do it to a directory on the mirrored drive since that covers me both
>ways from Sunday.
>
>...a bit more trouble but the ultimate failsafe is "imaging" the data onto a
>3rd HD using Drive Image which is cheap (I don't like Norton Ghost) ...when
>you initially set this up, make sure the image drive is on a separate cable
>and, after doing the first image, swap your bios boot sequence to that drive
>and boot from it using the image ...then swap your bios back ...from that
>point on, assuming your bios doesn't fail, you have the best of all worlds
>...a mirrored HD that takes over immediately if the master HD fails, a bu of
>your critical data that can be restored selectively, and a full software
>image available with a simple bios change if all else fails ...this of
>course doesn't address off-site storage but I don't worry about that anyway
>...since I have fire sprinklers and only a hurricane could do the place in
>...my computers are on my evac list right after Lai and the pets.
>
>...needless to say I didn't do this overnight ...its evolved over time ...if
>you really want the best info available on securing your data, I use
>www.langa.com as my bible ...his archives have really solid info and he
>gives you all of it, the good, the bad, and the ugly ...HTH :)
>
>William Hindman
><http://www.freestateproject.org> - Next Year In The Free State!
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
>To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'"
><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:41 PM
>Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Opinions please
>
>
>  
>
>>William,
>>
>>Can you talk a little more about a mirrored hard drive for backup?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dan Waters
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
>>    
>>
>Hindman
>  
>
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 4:04 PM
>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Opinions please
>>
>>
>>...not a file server :(
>>
>>...mirrored HD costs less, is more reliable, and incomparably faster 
>>than on-line bu :(
>>
>>William Hindman
>><http://www.freestateproject.org> - Next Year In The Free State!
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "KathrynAtGwens" <kathrynatgwens at socal.rr.com>
>>To: <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 3:02 PM
>>Subject: [dba-Tech] Opinions please
>>
>>
>>    
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>>>Gwen's son is going to fix her up with a new data server, and 
>>>offsite
>>>      
>>>
>>backup. Here's what he has in mind. Any issues that you know of?
>>    
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>>>A much simplified file server 
>>>http://www.snapappliance.com/page.cfm?name=2200Main&nav=2200
>>>
>>>Online backup 
>>>http://www.connected.com/solution/Home_User/Home_Getting_Started.asp
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Kathryn Bassett (at work address) kathrynatgwens at socal.rr.com
>>>kathryn at bassett.net (home)
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