[dba-Tech] Access vs. .NET

Francisco Tapia fhtapia at gmail.com
Thu Nov 18 11:42:58 CST 2004


ROTFL
> I really got into Access "full time" in 1994 and there was no internet.
Of course there was an internet... in 1991 I WAS using the internet,
but granted, there was not nearly the amount of "resources" that there
is now a days.

on the same token I love programming in Access, but I also have had a
small chance to begin using .Net, .Net is slow, you MUST load the .net
runtimes on your machine or destination machines that do not have your
version of .net (remember that hassel back in the days w/ VB apps,
making sure you had the right runtime?) It continues w/ .NET  XP is
deployed w/ .Net 1, but w/ .Net 2003, ie 1.1 you must Upgrade the
target machines if they are going to run effeciently.  Windows 2000
does not have the .net runtimes by default, so you must remember to
include the 40mb runtime in your distribution.

that being said, any machine that does not have the .net runtime and
then IS loaded w/ it, you'll notice a significant performance drop on
the pc.  things that took a fraction of a second to load, now take a
second or two while the screen re-draws... etc, etc, etc.

the problem w/ Access applications is that you MUST deploy the 40mb+
runtime along with your application if your customer is not already
running access.  Access tends to be a network pig, if you running a
networked FE/BE deployment.


On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:31:58 -0500, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> ROTFL.
> 
> I have to believe though that you have forgotten your early days learning
> Access, when all the millions of properties and events were so much Greek,
> and you had no idea what an object model was, never mind how to find it or
> how to interpret it.
> 
> I distinctly remember moving from procedural "start at the top (or with
> Turbo Pascal - the bottom) and start executing" code to Event driven "how
> can you ever know where the code is going to execute next".  I really got
> into Access "full time" in 1994 and there was no internet.  There was no
> Access Users Group, in fact I was on the BOD of the San Diego Users Group
> sitting in on that first meeting singing "halleluiah" that I would finally
> have someone to talk to about Access.  Once a month users group meetings.
> There were very few books, and the ADH was waaaaay over my head.
> 
> Yea sure, now that I have spent 10 years learning it, Access is indeed
> "chocolates on the pillow".
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:06 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Access vs. .NET
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> For what it's worth, I've come up with a suitable metaphor to describe the
> difference between writing an application in Microsoft Access and writing
> that same application using .NET technologies.
> 
> Microsoft Access is like living in a luxury hotel with hot and cold running
> chamber maids, laundry service, shoe shining service, room service, beds
> made every day, carpet vacuumed every day, fresh flowers every day, fresh
> linen, those nifty little soaps and bottles of shampoo, Magic Fingers
> massage bed, chocolates on the pillow, and your favorite newspaper unfolded
> to the financial page for you.
> 
> .NET is like clearing a wooded hillside to build a vacation cottage. But
> first you have to learn how to operate a bulldozer to clear the woods. Then
> you have to figure out for yourself the most efficient use of block and
> tackle to haul the trees out of the way. Oh, did I mention that you have to
> build a road to the site first? Then you need to stack the logs onto a truck
> and drive it yourself to the sawmill so that you can saw the logs into
> boards to use to build your house. You might want to learn how to smelt
> metal so that you can make your own nails and hammer and such...
> 
> It ain't quite that bad but I've never had to buy so many reference books
> and have them open at the same time.
> 
> Anybody else with a less florid description of .NET development?
> 
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
> 
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