[dba-Tech] The latest Debian

Salakhetdinov Shamil mcp2004 at mail.ru
Sun May 12 02:01:02 CDT 2013


Hi Jim,

But did you read all the text of the article Hans referenced? 

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Суббота, 11 мая 2013, 15:15 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
> Hi Hans:
> 
> The comments from an insider. Nothing that everyone could not all ready see
> but now a confirmation. At one point the developers, left, will all have to
> move on, unless the whole upper management of Microsoft can be convinced to
> move on.
> 
> MS may have to be virtually wiped out before it can grow again.
> 
> Jim 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian
> Andersen
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:52 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The latest Debian
> 
> Fun fact: Debian, on its own (excluding Debian based OSs like Ubuntu), is
> the most widely used operating system in the server market.
> 
> Here's another interested article with an admission from a Windows kernel
> developer about why the Windows is slower and falling behind other operating
> systems like Linux: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74
> 
> - Hans
> 
> 
> On 2013-05-11, at 11:04 AM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> > The latest Debian is here...Debian 7.
> > 
> > With this release, Google has removing its old OS and now is actively
> > porting all it Cloud to Debian. Debian is now using the latest Linux
> core(?)
> > which allows it to run on most of the major hardware architectures, all 32
> > and 64 bit Intel chips as well as on ARM, PowerPC, Itanium, IBM S/390 and
> so
> > on. 
> > 
> > Debian is not really a PC OS but a true server but it does come with a
> nice
> > little GUI (distro) called Xfce though most "real men and women" in the
> > computer industry still prefer the command line interface. 
> > 
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/08/debian_seven_review/
> > 
> > Of course you can still get all the reliability and functionality through
> > the Ubuntu and Mint distros which do tend to use more of the leading edge
> > (bleeding edge?) versions of Debian. Ubuntu, for example is really a full
> > blown server with a pretty interface and if ever needed, this PC desktop
> > could step up run the entire network, limited of course only by the
> > hardware. (The latest Ubuntu version 13.04, has been described as very
> fast
> > but boring...if you are a support tech you need more boring.)
> > 
> > According to some developers Exchange mail server, at least version 2010
> and
> > less, can runs fine on Debian but the 2012 version still requires some
> > tweaks. The new Samba server completely replaces Active-directory.
> Finally,
> > MS SQL 2012 runs and is fully compatible on Linux. 
> > 
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh568451.aspx
> > 
> > It looks like there is now less and less reasons to not migrate your
> servers
> > to Linux and Debian in particular. So why would you change if you have
> > already have a Windows Server system?
> > 
> > Answer: First, Linux runs up to three times as fast, can support almost a
> > dozen times more clients than a similar configured MS server version
> (using
> > the same hardware) and takes only a fifth of the space. Second, the
> > innovation on the Linux platforms are years ahead compared to MS (Example:
> > Debian uses, by default, a disk OS, that is faster (reading and writing),
> > with built in duplication and is self-healing but of course you can always
> > install the ZFS disk OS if you are planning a thousand server network).
> > Third, Linux (Debian) is rock solid reliable; no blue screens or software
> > crashes. Fourth, security on Linux servers have been the absolute best.
> > Fifth, and perhaps the least important, the initial product costs are
> zero,
> > but of course, tech support fees (your fees) are just the same.    
> > 
> > So why are you still installing Windows servers? ;-)
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
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