[AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman

Lambert

...my tag line stays ...that you object to its content is your problem
...otoh, you're welcome to your own tag line ...else please refrain from
posting political pathos here ...join the dba-OT list which we support for
that explicit purpose ...and where I'll be most happy to roast you, your
opinions, and your tag lines :))

William Hindman ...btw, I'm not a Republican either :)))))
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is
worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to
fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a
miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so
by the exertions of better men than himself."  John Stuart Mill


----- Original Message -----
From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman


> William,
>
> You quote a J.S. Mill comment about war.
>
> "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
> degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing
is
> worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to
> fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a
> miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so
> by the exertions of better men than himself."  John Stuart Mill
>
> Is it to justify the present fiasco? To further put down those people who
> did not agree with the US/UK invading Iraq for the reasons their
governments
> stated? Are you yet another of those who cannot / will not see the
> difference between supporting our troops and supporting our government?
The
> republican masses and mass media - encouraged by their leaders - continue
to
> perpetuate the false notion that to disagree with the president and the
war
> is to wish harm to our troops - to be unpatriotic - but any plain thinking
> person who can see beyond the blinkers knows this is simply A LIE to
foster
> discontent come polling time.
>
> It's a shame that you use a quote from a philosopher who was writing in
the
> context, and within the shores of the greatest single example of imperial
> pillage that the world has ever know: the British Empire, who's expansion
> was in full swing at the time. It is also ironic as Mill was amongst the
> most radically Liberal politicians of his time. Though never a socialist,
he
> advocated public ownership of natural resources, women's rights, birth
> control and universal suffrage  to mention just a few. None of which
appear
> to be foremost in the minds of the republican administration. There may
well
> be something more ugly thing than 'the decayed and degraded state of moral
> and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war', it could
> just be the current USA administration which shows no limit to its
> hypocrisy.
>
> Sorry off the O/T nature of this post, but if we have to read the such out
> of context remarks in peoples' tag lines I think they need responding to
on
> the main list - at least once!
>
> Lambert
>
>
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