Andy Lacey
andy at minstersystems.co.uk
Wed Apr 9 14:02:40 CDT 2003
Please stop this thread now. I'm not going to say how I feel on this subject because this list is a totally inappropriate forum to do so. We have an OT list. Please go there to continue if you wish. This is the kind of topic on which people have strongly held views, and because of that it could cause severe distress and disruption here. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Wortz, Charles > Sent: 09 April 2003 19:55 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: RE:Tag Line of William Hindman > > > > Freedom is not free. Some of those that have only known the > benefits of freedom are among the least willing to bear the > responsibilities of freedom. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg S [mailto:weeden1949 at hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 13:48 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: RE:Tag Line of William Hindman > > Lambert: > > So, freedom is a fiasco? Strange way to think. > > Greg > > PS: Please pardon my response OT to another OT...I'll cease > it now. <vbg> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com> > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:29 PM > Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman > > > William, > > You quote a J.S. Mill comment about war. > > "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the > decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings > which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man > who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing > which is more important than his own personal safety, is a > miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless > made and kept so by the exertions of better men than > himself." John Stuart Mill > > Is it to justify the present fiasco? To further put down > those people who did not agree with the US/UK invading Iraq > for the reasons their governments stated? Are you yet another > of those who cannot / will not see the difference between > supporting our troops and supporting our government? The > republican masses and mass media - encouraged by their > leaders - continue to perpetuate the false notion that to > disagree with the president and the war is to wish harm to > our troops - to be unpatriotic - but any plain thinking > person who can see beyond the blinkers knows this is simply A > LIE to foster discontent come polling time. > > It's a shame that you use a quote from a philosopher who was > writing in the context, and within the shores of the greatest > single example of imperial pillage that the world has ever > know: the British Empire, who's expansion was in full swing > at the time. It is also ironic as Mill was amongst the most > radically Liberal politicians of his time. Though never a > socialist, he advocated public ownership of natural > resources, women's rights, birth control and universal > suffrage to mention just a few. None of which appear to be > foremost in the minds of the republican administration. There > may well be something more ugly thing than 'the decayed and > degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks > that nothing is worth war', it could just be the current USA > administration which shows no limit to its hypocrisy. > > Sorry off the O/T nature of this post, but if we have to read > the such out of context remarks in peoples' tag lines I think > they need responding to on the main list - at least once! > > Lambert > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com >