Randall Anthony
ranthony at wrsystems.com
Fri Apr 11 14:56:22 CDT 2003
Thanks for that tidbit, Charles. I guess I'm just looking to be identified as a senior technical guy, but not a manager. I already work for management types who create my project schedules that couldn't create a form with one table using the Access wizard! <bg> -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, Now that you state your intention is to work toward senior management, I can state that an MBA is almost a prerequisite these days to reach that goal. Also, experience int the operations side of an organization always helps. With your 10+ years on the technical side with an MIS, you should consider the information intensive industries as your target organizations since that gives you 10 years experience in the operational side already. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 14:18 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Importance: Low Thanks Jim, I've been mulling over this for quite a bit now. That's exactly what my intent was, but it seems everyone I've spoken/wrote to in the tech side is saying ROI is nil. The minute someone sees MBA or MM it's "oh, this guys on the management track, we want somebody technical". With my MIS degree, I pretty much do the translator/referee thing quite a bit. Right now it's running about 8 to 1, "get some certs and experience in those cert skills, you don't need more education". Thanks again for your advice. -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:57 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to stay on the technical side of the business." However, if you aspire to management and eventually senior management positions the combination of business knowledge and technical expertise is relatively rare and therefore can give you a decided edge (not to mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for that matter, does not by itself grant business smarts but can certainly point you in the right direction. For example, the ability to bridge the gap as "translator" and "referee" between IT and accounting staffs by possessing in depth technical and business knowledge of both camps can make you close to indispensable in some companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW, Translator/referee/system designer/curmudgeon is essentially my current job description although I arrived here bassackwards from your proposed path. (I earned my MBA/CPA first and became CFO of a NY stock exchange company before switching to the database/financial reporting side because it is definitely more fun). Good luck! Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [ mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us <mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us> ] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the business. With 10+ years experience your resume and your good references should get you an interview with any place worth working. All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? <grin> Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [ mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com <mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com> ] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. 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