[AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs

Randall Anthony ranthony at wrsystems.com
Fri Apr 11 14:56:22 CDT 2003


Thanks for that tidbit, Charles.  I guess I'm just looking to be identified
as a senior technical guy, but not a manager.  I already work for management
types who create my project schedules that couldn't create a form with one
table using the Access wizard! <bg>  

-----Original Message-----
From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:30 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs


Randy,
 
Now that you state your intention is to work toward senior management, I can
state that an MBA is almost a prerequisite these days to reach that goal.
Also, experience int the operations side of an organization always helps.
With your 10+ years on the technical side with an MIS, you should consider
the information intensive industries as your target organizations since that
gives you 10 years experience in the operational side already.
 

Charles Wortz 
Software Development Division 
Texas Education Agency 
1701 N. Congress Ave 
Austin, TX 78701-1494 
512-463-9493 
CWortz at tea.state.tx.us 

-----Original Message-----
From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] 
Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 14:18
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs
Importance: Low


Thanks Jim, I've been mulling over this for quite a bit now.  That's exactly
what my intent was, but it seems everyone I've spoken/wrote to in the tech
side is saying ROI is nil.  The minute someone sees MBA or MM it's "oh, this
guys on the management track, we want somebody technical".  With my MIS
degree, I pretty much do the translator/referee thing quite a bit.  Right
now it's running about 8 to 1, "get some certs and experience in those cert
skills, you don't need more education".  Thanks again for your advice.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:57 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs



I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to stay on the technical side of
the business." However, if you aspire to management and eventually senior
management positions the combination of business knowledge and technical
expertise is relatively rare and therefore can give you a decided edge (not
to mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for that matter, does not by
itself grant business smarts but can certainly point you in the right
direction. 

For example, the ability to bridge the gap as "translator" and "referee"
between IT and accounting staffs by possessing in depth technical and
business knowledge of both camps can make you close to indispensable in some
companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW,  Translator/referee/system
designer/curmudgeon is essentially my current job description although I
arrived here bassackwards from your proposed path. (I earned my MBA/CPA
first and became CFO of a NY stock exchange company before switching to the
database/financial reporting side because it is definitely more fun). Good
luck!

Jim Hale 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Wortz, Charles [ mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us
<mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us> ] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM 
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs 


Randy, 

As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably 
will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the 
business.  With 10+ years experience your resume and your good 
references should get you an interview with any place worth working. 
All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? <grin> 

Charles Wortz 
Software Development Division 
Texas Education Agency 
1701 N. Congress Ave 
Austin, TX 78701-1494 
512-463-9493 
CWortz at tea.state.tx.us 



-----Original Message----- 
From: Randall Anthony [ mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com
<mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com> ] 
Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs 

Hi y'all.  I'm looking for opinions/suggestions.  I'm looking into an 
accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking 
into Univ of Phoenix online program).  It's an MBA on tech steroids, so 
to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, 
XML, HTML, et al.  Has any one gone through this?  Better yet, any of 
the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down 
the road?  I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing 
DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely 
wanted.  Thanks! 

Randy @ ext. 473 
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