[AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT message

Christopher Hawkins clh at christopherhawkins.com
Fri Aug 15 23:09:37 CDT 2003


That's very clever.  I'd love to see that code.

Was this ASP.NET or classic ASP?  

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT
message
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:07:22 -0500

>I do both.  There is no speed advantage when it comes to writing 
>output,
>because it has to be done through the response object anyways.  I 
>just
>finished a big project for a buddy.  It's a web form to View,Edit 
>and Add
>records to a few tables.  It went through a few twists and turns, 
>but the
>last week I was working on it, they said they wanted the form in the 
>same
>format as this particular PDF file.  I looked at the file, and said,
>perfect, because it was going to be very easy to duplicate it with 
>HTML
>tables.  Which I did.  Whereever data needed to be, I put this:
>
><%=dn.HTML("NameOfField")%>
>
>Then at the top of the asp page, I created that dn object, told it 
>what mode
>it was in (view, edit, new), and off it went.  If it was in View 
>mode, the
>HTML event would find the field, grab the value, put <b> in front 
>and </b>
>in back (if it applied), and walla, a nice simple form with data on 
>it
>(nothing needs to be disabled, etc (actually...the radio buttons 
>did...).
>If it was Edit mode, it used a lookup table to produce the correct 
>HTML form
>control, to display on the form (textbox, textareas, comboboxs...).  
>So what
>was returned was the complete HTML for that control (which would 
>include the
>options for the selects), with the current value set.  If it was in 
>New/Add
>mode, same thing, it just didn't set a value.
>
>Lot's of fun.....decent money too...
>
>Drew
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
>Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:54 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT 
>message
>
>
>Well, I'd be honored and grateful to get some overflow work.  I was
>recently telling my friends that if everyone I knew subcontracted
>just one hour of their projects to me, I'd be back in the black!  ;)
>
>I'm not surprised to hear that the dll's were faster, but I am
>surprised at how MUCH faster they were.
>
>Aside from your counting example, do you have the dll actually return
>HTML, or are you just using them to do logic or return calculated
>results?  For example, I've seen some pages where the entire HTML
>body was contained in a variable that was populated by a dll.  Pretty
>slick.  I wish I could take credit for having written that one.
>
>-C-
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT
>message
>Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:03:01 -0500
>
>>That's good.  I may toss ya some of my own work.  I just finished a 
>>bunch of
>>'jobs', but I'm sure there is going to be more just around the 
>>corner.
>>
>>Personally, I use VB .dll's whenever I can, when using ASP.  First, 
>>I like
>>VB 6.0's environment, however, and more importantly, VB .dll's run 
>a 
>>LOT
>>faster then plain ASP.  (Did a little testing for an article I 
>>co-wrote with
>>Susan, and on a first pass run between a plain ASP, and an ASP/.dll 
>>combo,
>>just doing a simple count to 10 million, the ASP/.dll combo ran 260 
>>times
>>faster then the raw ASP page.  That combo ran it in 100 
>>milliseconds, where
>>as the raw ASP took 26000 milliseconds (and if you do the math 
>>there, that's
>>26 seconds the user would have to wait for the page to load.)  On 
>>the second
>>run, both ran faster (because they were cached), but the ASP/.dll 
>>was now
>>something like 350 times faster.)
>>
>>Drew
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
>>Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:27 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT 
>>message
>>
>>
>>Drew,
>>
>>"Quick question about ASP skills. Do you use VB .dll's with ASP, or
>>just plain ASP?"
>>
>>I have used VB .dlls in some ASP apps.  Most of the projects I get
>>aren't sufficiently complex to justify them, though, so I usually
>>don't.  
>>
>>-C-
>>
>>---- Original Message ----
>>From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT
>>message
>>Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:50:40 -0500
>>
>>>I'll pass your resume along, hopefully my 'contact' has contacts 
>in 
>>>CA.
>>>
>>>Quick question about ASP skills.  Do you use VB .dll's with ASP, 
>or 
>>>just
>>>plain ASP?
>>>
>>>Drew
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:15 PM
>>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT 
>>>message
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi, Drew.  I'm located in Visalia, CA.  It's somewhat in the middle
>>>of the state, about an hour north of Bakersfield.
>>>
>>>My resume is here:  www.christopherhawkins.com/clhResume.htm
>>>
>>>To summarize, I've been developing in Access and SQL since 1996, VB
>>>since version 3.0, and in recent years have done work in classic 
>ASP
>>>and Oracle 7.3 and up for Fortune 500 firms.  The past 5 years have
>>>been a 50/50 split betwen coding and leading teams.  The past 6
>>>months have seen me doing a series of short contracts, mostly 
>Access
>>>work but also some project management.
>>>
>>>-C-
>>>
>>>
>>>---- Original Message ----
>>>From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
>>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
>>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT
>>>message
>>>Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:45:02 -0500
>>>
>>>>Not crass at all.  Asking for work to come your way is definitely 
>a
>>>>developer's topic!!!!
>>>>
>>>>Don't start throwing a party, but lately I have been inundated 
>>with 
>>>>contract
>>>>work.  I also keep an eye on the locals, and an ear to the 
>ground. 
>> 
>>>>I don't
>>>>have anything right now, but I have had to turn stuff down in the 
>>>>last few
>>>>weeks.  Nothing MAJOR, but some of it steady work for a few 
>>months. 
>>> 
>>>>Most of
>>>>the stuff I have to turn down is local though, but even if it 
>>>isn't, 
>>>>I don't
>>>>know who to contact since most jobs want someone local if they 
>>>>haven't
>>>>worked with them before.
>>>>
>>>>So where are you at, and can you send me your resume.  (It 
>doesn't 
>>>>need to
>>>>be full blown one. Just let me know what you know.....).
>>>>
>>>>Drew
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:32 PM
>>>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>Subject: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT 
>message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>First off, I apologize for such a blatantly OT message, but I just
>>>>don't know where else to turn.  
>>>>
>>>>6 months ago, I bought a house.  Three weeks later, I was laid 
>>off. 
>>>>Ouch.  Dribs and drabs of contract work have come in, but I'm so 
>>far
>>>>out of any major tech market that there are not enough contract 
>>jobs
>>>>or W2 jobs available within commutable distance.  
>>>>
>>>>I'm making an appeal to any among you who may find yourself in the
>>>>enviable positon of having more work offered than you can handle, 
>>or
>>>>who may have knowledge of projects that are staffing up.  I'm 
>>>looking
>>>>for a chance to subcontract, a referral, and outright assignment -
>>>>anything that gets the revenue train going again.
>>>>
>>>>I know this is crass, but if I have to take the initiative and beg
>>>>for work to keep my family fed and housed, I'll beg!
>>>>
>>>>Anyone with work or leads, feel free to contact me offline -
>>>>clh at christopherhawkins.com.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>-Christopher Hawkins-  
>>>>
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