Drew Wutka
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Fri Aug 15 17:07:22 CDT 2003
I do both. There is no speed advantage when it comes to writing output,
because it has to be done through the response object anyways. I just
finished a big project for a buddy. It's a web form to View,Edit and Add
records to a few tables. It went through a few twists and turns, but the
last week I was working on it, they said they wanted the form in the same
format as this particular PDF file. I looked at the file, and said,
perfect, because it was going to be very easy to duplicate it with HTML
tables. Which I did. Whereever data needed to be, I put this:
<%=dn.HTML("NameOfField")%>
Then at the top of the asp page, I created that dn object, told it what mode
it was in (view, edit, new), and off it went. If it was in View mode, the
HTML event would find the field, grab the value, put <b> in front and </b>
in back (if it applied), and walla, a nice simple form with data on it
(nothing needs to be disabled, etc (actually...the radio buttons did...).
If it was Edit mode, it used a lookup table to produce the correct HTML form
control, to display on the form (textbox, textareas, comboboxs...). So what
was returned was the complete HTML for that control (which would include the
options for the selects), with the current value set. If it was in New/Add
mode, same thing, it just didn't set a value.
Lot's of fun.....decent money too...
Drew
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:54 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT message
Well, I'd be honored and grateful to get some overflow work. I was
recently telling my friends that if everyone I knew subcontracted
just one hour of their projects to me, I'd be back in the black! ;)
I'm not surprised to hear that the dll's were faster, but I am
surprised at how MUCH faster they were.
Aside from your counting example, do you have the dll actually return
HTML, or are you just using them to do logic or return calculated
results? For example, I've seen some pages where the entire HTML
body was contained in a variable that was populated by a dll. Pretty
slick. I wish I could take credit for having written that one.
-C-
---- Original Message ----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT
message
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:03:01 -0500
>That's good. I may toss ya some of my own work. I just finished a
>bunch of
>'jobs', but I'm sure there is going to be more just around the
>corner.
>
>Personally, I use VB .dll's whenever I can, when using ASP. First,
>I like
>VB 6.0's environment, however, and more importantly, VB .dll's run a
>LOT
>faster then plain ASP. (Did a little testing for an article I
>co-wrote with
>Susan, and on a first pass run between a plain ASP, and an ASP/.dll
>combo,
>just doing a simple count to 10 million, the ASP/.dll combo ran 260
>times
>faster then the raw ASP page. That combo ran it in 100
>milliseconds, where
>as the raw ASP took 26000 milliseconds (and if you do the math
>there, that's
>26 seconds the user would have to wait for the page to load.) On
>the second
>run, both ran faster (because they were cached), but the ASP/.dll
>was now
>something like 350 times faster.)
>
>Drew
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
>Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:27 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT
>message
>
>
>Drew,
>
>"Quick question about ASP skills. Do you use VB .dll's with ASP, or
>just plain ASP?"
>
>I have used VB .dlls in some ASP apps. Most of the projects I get
>aren't sufficiently complex to justify them, though, so I usually
>don't.
>
>-C-
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT
>message
>Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:50:40 -0500
>
>>I'll pass your resume along, hopefully my 'contact' has contacts in
>>CA.
>>
>>Quick question about ASP skills. Do you use VB .dll's with ASP, or
>>just
>>plain ASP?
>>
>>Drew
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:15 PM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT
>>message
>>
>>
>>Hi, Drew. I'm located in Visalia, CA. It's somewhat in the middle
>>of the state, about an hour north of Bakersfield.
>>
>>My resume is here: www.christopherhawkins.com/clhResume.htm
>>
>>To summarize, I've been developing in Access and SQL since 1996, VB
>>since version 3.0, and in recent years have done work in classic ASP
>>and Oracle 7.3 and up for Fortune 500 firms. The past 5 years have
>>been a 50/50 split betwen coding and leading teams. The past 6
>>months have seen me doing a series of short contracts, mostly Access
>>work but also some project management.
>>
>>-C-
>>
>>
>>---- Original Message ----
>>From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT
>>message
>>Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:45:02 -0500
>>
>>>Not crass at all. Asking for work to come your way is definitely a
>>>developer's topic!!!!
>>>
>>>Don't start throwing a party, but lately I have been inundated
>with
>>>contract
>>>work. I also keep an eye on the locals, and an ear to the ground.
>
>>>I don't
>>>have anything right now, but I have had to turn stuff down in the
>>>last few
>>>weeks. Nothing MAJOR, but some of it steady work for a few
>months.
>>
>>>Most of
>>>the stuff I have to turn down is local though, but even if it
>>isn't,
>>>I don't
>>>know who to contact since most jobs want someone local if they
>>>haven't
>>>worked with them before.
>>>
>>>So where are you at, and can you send me your resume. (It doesn't
>>>need to
>>>be full blown one. Just let me know what you know.....).
>>>
>>>Drew
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:32 PM
>>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject: [AccessD] Getting Desperate - Apologies for the OT message
>>>
>>>
>>>First off, I apologize for such a blatantly OT message, but I just
>>>don't know where else to turn.
>>>
>>>6 months ago, I bought a house. Three weeks later, I was laid
>off.
>>>Ouch. Dribs and drabs of contract work have come in, but I'm so
>far
>>>out of any major tech market that there are not enough contract
>jobs
>>>or W2 jobs available within commutable distance.
>>>
>>>I'm making an appeal to any among you who may find yourself in the
>>>enviable positon of having more work offered than you can handle,
>or
>>>who may have knowledge of projects that are staffing up. I'm
>>looking
>>>for a chance to subcontract, a referral, and outright assignment -
>>>anything that gets the revenue train going again.
>>>
>>>I know this is crass, but if I have to take the initiative and beg
>>>for work to keep my family fed and housed, I'll beg!
>>>
>>>Anyone with work or leads, feel free to contact me offline -
>>>clh at christopherhawkins.com.
>>>
>>>Thank you.
>>>
>>>-Christopher Hawkins-
>>>
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