Drew Wutka
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Tue Dec 23 15:37:38 CST 2003
I don't know, I guess all ya can do is gripe about it. <grin> Drew -----Original Message----- From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 2:59 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security Personally I found the SecFAQ a mine of information that was very useful. For me, MS documentation seems to have gone downhill since the advent of HTML format help files. But then I suspect that that's because, for the author, it got easier to write the content, whereas, back in the bad old days of RFT source files compiled to .HLP files you had to *think* about what you were going to say and *plan* how you were going to present it. Oh well. What can you do?! Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [SMTP:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 3:30 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > > Oh don't get me wrong, I understood it, but I learned more about Access > User > Level security from 'trial and error'/expiramentation then I did directly > from the white paper. > > Not really trying to bash MS. I think Access 97's is the best around, and > I > have actually gotten very adept at the MSDN too. So I know MS can write > very > helpful documentation. I just don't think the white paper on Access > Security was up to par with MSes better stuff. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:56 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > > > What don't you understand about it Drew? I'm not an English major, but it > makes perfect sense to me. <g> > > Or is this just another example of knee-jerk Microsoft / (Andy Baron, > Chris > Bell, Mary Chipman, and Paul Litwin) Bashing? > > Lambert > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [SMTP:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:11 PM > > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > > > > What was the purpose of the polling? Was it to give you an idea of how > > useful the LWS stuff you are working on will be? > > > > Just curious. > > > > Personally, the 'white paper' on Access user level security is a > complete > > pain to try to understand. Anyone up for writing a better one? <grin> > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:41 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > > > > > > Well I totaled up the scores today and of the ~50 people that replied we > > average about a 3.4. My questions of course are: > > > > 1) If you were VERY good would you not respond? I'm guessing that most > > would respond. > > 2) If you were clueless would you not respond? I'm guessing many > wouldn't > > respond. > > > > Thus I'm guessing that the true average of all our members is less than > > 3.4 > > rather than more than 3.4. Even if we really do average 3.4, this > > indicates > > that most of us (myself included) don't use Access' built in security, > or > > don't do so often. > > > > John W. Colby > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:00 PM > > To: AccessD > > Subject: [AccessD] POLL: Access Security > > > > > > I'd like to take a poll regarding your knowledge of Access' built-in > > security. By security I do NOT mean the database properties, rather > using > > workgroups / users to secure forms, tables, queries etc. > > > > Anyone interested in participating please choose one of the following: > > > > 1) I am an Access security guru. I can quickly and easily lock a > database > > down so tight I can't even get back in. No help / books needed. > > 2) I am fluent with Access security. I can get the job done but it > > definitely takes a few hours. I probably won't need the help / books. > > 3) I have done Access Security on at least one real paying project. I > > would > > need help / books to do it again. > > 4) I have heard about Access Security, read about it, managed to shoot a > > toe > > off, maybe played around with it, but I am confident I could get the job > > done. Books / help definitly needed. > > 5) Access has built in security? What is this and where would I go to > > learn > > it? Why haven't I ever seen these books / help? > > > > If you would please just select a number and reply I would appreciate > it. > > > > As for myself, I must admit I rate a solid 4. No client has ever been > > willing to pay for it and I have always had other things to learn / do > so > > I > > just never did it (for real). > > > > John W. 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