Francisco H Tapia
my.lists at verizon.net
Wed Jul 16 11:24:00 CDT 2003
While a shift in TCP is still a ways away it IS comming... http://netlab.caltech.edu/FAST/ -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:57 AM [GMT-8], Drew Wutka <DWUTKA at marlow.com> wrote: : I'd agree with Gustav about going web based though. That immediately : resolves remote end users. I personally use Access 97 .mdb's, with : VBScript (for Intranet users) and ASP (but I can make most stuff : strictly ASP, so no client side scripting is necessary). : : Going web based may even ride out an OS change, because you can just : keep a web server running on it's own. The only issue would be a : complete change in TCP/IP, which I think is far more unlikely then a : big shift in OS design. (With the exception of the 5 byte IP : Address...to handle more connections....). Also, what many people : don't realize that is that web based solutions are using WAY over : powered. I crunched some numbers on our web server. It hosts : http://www.marlow.com . First of all, it is running on a PIII : gigahertz processor, with 384 megs of RAM. Not a whooping machine. : In fact, it wasn't even the top of the line desktop when we bought it : 2 years ago. However, with an average of 280 unique visitors a day, : the webserver is using 9.8% of the systems processing time. That is : a drop in the bucket. : : Drew : : -----Original Message----- : From: Foote, Chris [mailto:Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com] : Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:57 AM : To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' : Subject: RE: [AccessD] Future of Access? : : : Thanks for the input Gustav! : : I'd forgotten about Oracle! I'll add that to the list of : possibilities. : : The requirements are (at this stage) pretty vague, but is likely to : involve up to ten concurrent users on geographically remote sites. : I'm guessing on half a million records split between five/six main : tables. My current A97 db with 16k records weighs in at (FE + BE) : 15MB. My proposed db is not much more complicated than this. : : Thirty years ago my programming was done on a Ferranti Pegasus : mainframe. I had to write the programme one paper with a pencil, : convert it to hole on punched cards, wait for the technician to run : the programme and give me the paper read-out. The Pegasus (IIRC) used : 60 thousand ECC83 valves (tubes) and had a whole building to itself. : Thirty years on, I've got more processing power in my cell phone! : : But my company /still/ wants me to design a database to be used for : the /next/ thirty years! : : Best Regards! : Chris Foote (UK) : : :: -----Original Message----- :: From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] :: Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:30 AM :: To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving :: Subject: Re: [AccessD] Future of Access? :: :: :: Hi Chris :: :: If you are thinking of keeping the same app and database engine alive :: for 30 years I would go for Java and Oracle or DB2. Microsoft :: is indeed :: unpredictable for a time span of this size. :: :: However, you don't tell anything about the requirements, the amount :: of data, number of users or the complexity of the app. Nothing widely :: used - be it a programming language or a database format - disappears :: in a year; a dBase III or Paradox I application will run today which :: will have left you with at least five years considering how to port :: such an app to a present system. :: :: /gustav : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com