Haslett, Andrew
andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au
Mon Jul 28 20:50:30 CDT 2003
Hi Bruce. Sorry guys, I'm still confused as to the negatives you have found with VS.Net. >> Too powerful to get an understanding of the basics? You can look at the code behind any controls that you add as per normal. Or you can not use the designer at all and hand code everything if you want to learn the basics. >> creating an entire slew of directories and files for any "project" that you create.. Which folders exactly.. The BIN folder is to hold your compiled files. The _VTI folders are all related to Frontpage Extensions which (I assume) can be disabled, although they don't cause any harm - and are required if thats the type of file access you want. Apart from that, the other files that are created - are required or *should* be used for a project - otherwise its not a project! You can always choose not to create a project in VS.NET - just create a new page of your choice and save it where you like. I do see where you're coming from but it seems a pity that you have this tool available and are looking elsewhere due to a couple of occurences that can be 'worked around' PS. www.learnvisualstudio.net is the best learning tool I've come across. Actual videos of someone using VS to create applications rather than reading through pages of text. He offers free daily videos to get you interested, or you can pay a (cheap) subscription to gain access to all existing and new videos. Not only teaches VS.NET but provides examples and tutorials on the framework, VB, C# etc. Best money I've spent! Good luck! Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Bruen [mailto:bbruen at bigpond.com] Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2003 10:45 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net editor Within the limited look that I have had at the .NET version of ASP ( and its not to bad eh!) I have found that Dreamweaver MX gave me the best ablity to "look under the hood". I too, have both WM and VS tools and have felt exactly the same - too powerful to enable a good understanding of the basics. I have not suffered the same problem as you with the inbuilt server though? Install Problems again??? I am currently looking for alternative tools, considering Kylix ( am I raving mad?), considering other Linux based tools ( definitely stark raving mad! ) Sorry I cant give you any help on the specific problem. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2003 10:46 AM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net editor I am looking for a reasonable wysiwyg ASP.Net programming environmelnt. I have the ASP.Net Web Matrix widget from M$ site, and I also have Visual Studio.net with ASP.Net (I guess, at least the ability to create web pages from it). My main problem with VS.net is that it doesn't do things the easy way, rather creating an entire slew of directories and files for any "project" that you create. While this may eventually be a good thing, at the moment it simply obscures what I am trying to do. OTOH it is very powerful with built in wizards to do things like help me hook up to data etc. and (for those used to it) intellisense. Web Matrix OTOH can work with a single page, creating things drag and drop. No intellisense (AFAICT) and few if any wizards but a nice drag and drop environment none the less. To be quite honest, my biggest problem with that is I haven't figured out how to get it to NOT attempt to start a new copy of it's built-in web server when one is already open. When you run a page to test it, it opens it's built in web server. If it's already open, it tells you that the server is already open. I have to go close it, then run the page again. Does anyone know how to get the Web Matrix not to remind me that the server is open and just use it (or close it for me) automatically? Are there any other recommendations for programming environments for ASP.Net? John W. Colby www.colbyconsulting.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information protected by law from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. 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