StaRKeY
StaRKeY at Wanadoo.nl
Sat Mar 8 02:41:00 CST 2003
Hi Shamil, yupz, sometimes not all clercs are equally smart, this and the turmoil we still have in our government probably caused all this frustration. On the other hand, if you went by the rules, having layed all the cards on the table and 'them' accepting your 'business' visa application knowing your kids were involved makes it their fault IMO. So, if I were you I'd use that to have them correct their fault asap with no extra costs. You payed for a service and from the specialist clercs you were dealing with, one of them should have pointed out that you'd needed a tourist visa since your kids are coming along. Their mistake, you are innocent russian applyer with not so much visa knowledge, right?:-) Good luck, Eric Starkenburg -----Original Message----- From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: zaterdag 8 maart 2003 00:13 To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] OT: "Chevaux de frise" of free world... Hi All, I'm sorry I'm writing about that here - I just went very crazy today about what they - Western Embassies and Consulates here and their bosses in Den Haage (Netherlands) are doing... Here is a fresh story: - I applied for business Visum (15 days of staying, one entry) several days ago for me and my two children(15 and 17 years old) (IMPORTANT NOTE: here in Consualate General they ACCEPTED this application for BUSINESS visum and they checked all the docs carefully) - to make that I prepared all the needed paperwork, get original invitation from my partner from Netherlands (DHL, second day delivery = rather expensive), even changed the passports to make them fresh new (some more bucks) because at first they said that the ones I had aren't good, PAID for their "services"(not that much but should be enough for a rather good dinner for three I think) and I started to wait... And BTW I spent quite some time on all that prepations and quite some bucks in total... Do you know what answer I've got today? (in fact my Netherland's partner was called from Den Haage - Ministry of Foreign Affairs) - they said I should have applied for TOURISTIC not BUSINESS visum because I plan to go with my kids but as I mentioned above here they CHECKED all the docs and ACCEPTED them... Should I fight with them looking for truth with the risk to be written in their "black lists" forever? Or should I give up and accept the "rules" of their game? - there is a whole business around them here - and one (including any kinds of criminals etc.) can buy for money any kind of Visum and freely enter West Europe or States or Canada... I wanted to make it direct and according to all the laws and I didn't want to pay to the "shadow business around them" any extra money - and I've got NOTHING - or I'd better say I and my partner in Netherlands got real mockery... And they were harsh not only with me - they were that hostile with my Netherland's partner too - how it comes? Shamil P.S. I know, probably Russian Embassies do something like that there in West Europe - but should it justify what they are doing here these ambassadors of "civilized" free world? -- e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Message is tested virus free Virus Database (VPS): 7-3-2003 Tested on: 8-3-2003 9:34:32 (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com