[AccessD] OT:Building your business was... Rate for first tim e

I make good money as a "pure" Access developer, and I don't have
anything but experience as my credentials.  I've found that have a solid
decade or more of database experience and years of being employed as an
Access developer, not just being able to talk the talk, has served me in
good stead.  I bring that to the table and we never even discuss
academic qualifications.  Any business that feels they have to pay more
for a degree isn't worth working for.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:22 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [AccessD] OT:Building your business was... Rate for
first tim e


Ron, I am in a similar situation, though I do contract stuff on the
side, and work a LOT more hours (well, I used too, lately I have only
worked 45 hours a week).

I am a little over your 'argument's sake' salary, if I only work 40
hours a week.  I consider myself to be making about 60% of what I should
be making. However, with the current job market, it's extremely
difficult to find other work.  In fact, I just was turned down for a job
recently.  Right now the market is flooded with all sorts of IT folks,
and most of them have degrees and certifications.  I have very little
faith in either of those, personally.  However, even though most
companies are hiring off of experience versus quals, it seems as if they
are paying more for quals then knowledge/capabilities.  I'm afraid
that's just part of the business world. It's hard to nail down, but I'm
pretty sure the problem lies with Accounts in general.  They find it
nearly impossible to quantify someone's value by their knowledge or
capabilities, however, it is very easy for them to quantify someones
education.

For example, have you ever seen a salary comparison sheet that showed
something like this:

Knowledge:
Salary:
Genius.  Can't stump this guy/girl.
$250,000
Extremely smart, learns everything thrown at him/her.
$180,000
Pretty smart, knows what he's paid to do and a little more. $110,000
Smart, knows his/her job. $70,000
Average, can do his/her job as long as there are instructions.	$40,000
A little slow, needs to constantly be shown what to do.		$25,000
Pretty stupid, can barely do his/her job with lots of help. $10,000 Dumb
as a post, can barely tie his/her shoes. -$1,000

Of course you haven't seen a salary list like that.  Instead, salary
lists are made up of a job title, along with certifications and degrees.
Obviously a perfect system! <evil grin>.

What I like most about being employed full time though, is I get to work
on random stuff during idle time (when there is idle time), so I am
constantly learning!

Drew

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