[AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines

A juicy tidbit at the spot where you want the ferret to go will work.

Charles Wortz
Software Development Division
Texas Education Agency
1701 N. Congress Ave
Austin, TX 78701-1494
512-463-9493
CWortz at tea.state.tx.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Elam, Debbie [mailto:DElam at jenkens.com] 
Sent: Wednesday 2003 May 21 08:17
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines

Yes but how would you get them to stop playing with the cable, much less
get them out the correct spot if at all.  I have heard ferrets were used
to string cable in tight places, but I am still trying to figure out how
they were trained.  Ferrets are smart, but do not take direction well,
and consider anything and everything a toy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Lytle [mailto:nancy.lytle at auatac.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:27 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines


On a lighter note, for those really tight places for stringing cables -
walls and low ceilings-, why not use a ferret, they can get into the
most unusual places, they work on the cheap, on the other hand they can
be tempermental.

N Lytle :))

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Bruen
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines


True enough - we only had to get across 2x4 stringers, luckily the
rafters/upper floor bearers (2x10) ran the other way.  The car
negotiated the 2x4s without a problem.

I would NEVER suggest running data through power conduit.  Guess we were
lucky again in that the house is full brick and there is a "fair" 10mm
gap between the skins, the only obstacle to vertical drops being the
brickies ties.  Brick veneer and etc with studded walls is always a
problem for any vertical cabling - I usually have opted for "dress"
conduit except in the rare cases where I felt the job was worth
replastering the wall.

Bruce
P.s. I have done it for a living.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Frank Tanner
III
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:37 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines


That works fine for an office build.  But RC cars
don't work well in raftered house ceilings.  Most
houses here use 2x6s or 2x8s for rafters.  Or at least
most of the ones that I've seen.

If you're running network lines down the same conduit
as electrical wiring you're violating about a dozen
fire and safety codes.  Not to mention every basic
rule of network wiring that there is.

Electrical wiring, ESPECIALLY two-phase and
three-phase wiring emit large amounts of RF.  RF kills
data integrity.  One of the most basic rules of
network wiring is NEVER string your network wires
across power conduits, junction boxes, or lighting
fixtures.  Don't believe me?  Ask anyone that does it
for a living.  You, physically, can do it, but you
shouldn't.  You're asking for trouble.