Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
bchacc at san.rr.com
Mon Oct 20 07:42:13 CDT 2003
So where does one get one of these filters for Outlook Express? Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 11:03 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Spam Blocker > Yes, I concur John. > > I was recently introduced to the new Mozilla Bayesian filter and was totally > impressed especially that it actually learns your preferences and > tolerences, similar to a netural net...it actually learns as it goes from > your selections and rejections over time. A friend has been using one for > over a year now. He has been directing all the spam to a spam directory just > in case it filtered some important documents. In the last month or so he > says it has been doing the filtering with one hundred percent accuracy but > he said it tooks months before the filter was properly fine-tune. > > I will be using the Bayesian spam filter for sure. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Colby > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 9:51 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Spam Blocker > > > For my money it is still helpful to place the spam in a separate folder for > scanning. It just seems easier to look at a page of messages about loans, > pills and penis patches and pick out the one good message. And believe me, > Bayesian filters are VERY good at deciding that something is spam. > > I use Outlook filters to further classify my email, sorting things into > folders. Newsletters, AccessD messages, stuff from friends and relatives > etc. Train the Bayesian filter on ONE EACH of these messages and it's good > to go. I guess it decides that the address is good or something, not sure > really. So the spam goes into the spam bucket and really is spam, VERY > occasional "not sure" (and you can play with the numbers to decide the % is > tagged not sure), and whatever is left in the inbox after spam filtering and > my rules is also about 50% spam, though these amount to 1 or 2 a day. > > Until someone on the list turned me on to Bayesian filters I wasn't > convinced, but they really do work. This C%oc&k crap gets shoveled right > out as spam. > > John W. Colby > www.colbyconsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart Sanders > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:14 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Spam Blocker > > > My main problem with anti-spam stuff is the 99% accuracy issue. What if the > 1% > it filters happens to be an urgent email I need. So in order to prevent > losing > such an email, I still have to scan down the list of filtered junk. If > that's > the case, then why bother at all. So I've ended up just scanning down my > inbox > and ctrl clicking each spam and hitting delete. > > A couple of things that can help if you are not already too inundated or > have a > new email. > - *never* put your email as a link on your website. Robots wind their way > around the internet looking at websites to harvest email addresses off. Use > either a graphical image of your email address or use a web based form for > receiving enquiries > - checking out a new site and it requires registration then use a throw away > address. I use a yahoo email address for this > > Probably many other tips users of DBA lists could come up with. Maybe > someone > can write up a summary and create a spam help page on the DBA site. > > Stuart > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > William Hindman > > Sent: Monday, 20 October, 2003 4:39 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Spam Blocker > > > > > > ...I mostly use hotmail and have several filters set there > > ...but hotmail > > also frequently routes good mail it can't classify into its > > "bulk mail" > > catchall so I still have to scan it ...plus, there are lots > > of spam scams > > that hotmail isn't sophisticated enough to catch such as > > B-I-G D-I-*-K, etc > > :((((( > > > > William Hindman > > So, then, to every man his chance -- to every man, regardless > > of his birth, > > his shining golden opportunity -- to every man his right to > > live, to work, > > to be himself, to become whatever his manhood and his vision > > can combine to > > make him -- this, seeker, is the promise of America. > > -- Thomas Wolfe > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com