[AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort of)

A router and a switch are fundimentall different
things.

A router does just that.  It routes network traffic.

A switch plays "traffic cop" for a network.

Newer switches, especially the layer 3 and layer 4
ones can perform both functions.This isn't an exact
definition, but it's as close as I could think of
without getting too technical.

--- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Is there a difference between a switch and a router?
> 
> Rocky
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frank Tanner III" <pctech at mybellybutton.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 6:54 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort
> of)
> 
> 
> > I recommend "hardwiring" the IP address of any
> device
> > or server connected to your LAN that's not a
> > workstation and is virtually always on.
> >
> > For the price, I would also highly recommend
> removing
> > all hubs from your network and using them as
> > doorstops.  Switches have come way down in price
> and
> > have many benifits over hubs.
> >
> > Hubs divide the bandwidth across all ports.  Thus
> if
> > you have an 8-port 10-BaseT hub, all ports that
> are
> > processing data split that 10Mbit.  A switch, each
> > port gets the fill bandwidth.
> >
> > That's not including the security issues inherent
> with
> > hubs as they broadcast all available data to all
> > available ports rather than to the proper
> destination
> > port.
> >
> > --- John Colby <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > Yes, you can indeed daisy chain routers and
> > > SUPPOSEDLY hubs, though I had no
> > > joy doing that with my old hub.  I am however
> daisy
> > > chaining my old 4 port
> > > router off of my new 4 port wireless router. 
> The
> > > newer models even figure
> > > out what kind of cable you are using, crossover
> or
> > > regular.  The biggest
> > > issue there was that the router was the dhcp
> server
> > > so I had to turn off the
> > > old as a dhcp server and turn on the new.  I
> also
> > > hardwired the address of
> > > the old router to 192.168.1.2.  Daisy Chaining
> two 4
> > > port routers isn't a
> > > panacea however since you now end up using two
> ports
> > > just for the daisy
> > > chain and have 6 left.  In my case though I also
> > > have a wireless so I can
> > > get my laptop in through that and could also get
> > > other computers in if
> > > needed.
> > >
> > > I have an old model I TIVO which I modded to use
> the
> > > internet to "call in"
> > > for programming.  I had to snake a cable down
> the
> > > wall from the living room
> > > (luckily exactly over my office in the
> basement).  I
> > > understand that the
> > > model II has USB ports that can automatically
> use
> > > the USB wireless cards to
> > > connect to the internet.
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > www.colbyconsulting.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:33 AM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network
> (sort
> > > of)
> > >
> > >
> > > John:
> > >
> > > I heard that you can daisy chain hubs off one of
> the
> > > ports on your router to
> > > get more ports and that you can go up to 255
> devices
> > > from one router this
> > > way.  Seems to easy and cheap, though.
> > >
> > > I've also found that when creating a new network
> it
> > > sometimes takes a few
> > > minutes for the different shared devices to
> 'see'
> > > each other - especially on
> > > the wireless.  So I'll whang around frustrated
> > > trying to get the network to
> > > work and then have the same experience you had -
> > > after a few minutes,
> > > suddenly the other machines are in my network
> > > neighborhood.  Go figure.
> > >
> > > Rocky
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Colby" <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > > To: "Database Advisors Inc. (Tech)"
> > > <Dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>;
> > > "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:39 PM
> > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort
> of)
> > >
> > >
> > > > I ordered a Netgear MR814v2 Wireless router a
> > > couple of weeks ago.  I
> > > needed
> > > > to expand my 4 port router (I had 5 things I
> kept
> > > needing to plug in) and
> > > > the Netgear was on sale at www.Newegg.com at
> the
> > > time.  I then tried and
> > > > failed to install a linksys WPC11v2.5 I had
> laying
> > > around, so I ordered a
> > > > dlink dwl-650 that was on sale (rebate) at
> > > www.newegg.com.  Long story
> > > > short, it didn't work.  Long story a little
> > > longer, a very long call to
> > > > dlink tech support, did not solve the problem.
> > > >
> > > > Or maaaaaybe it did.  After failing to figure
> > > anything out, they
> > > recommended
> > > > that I upgrade my laptop bios.  It's an
> ancient
> > > (now) 233mhz PII Toshiba
> > > > Satellite 4000 that I bought with my first
> > > paycheck from my trip to work
> > > for
> > > > Mr. Breen in Dublin Ireland back in hmmm.....
> > > November 1997?  Getting a
> > > bit
> > > > long in the tooth, truth be told.
> > > >
> > > > The bios upgrade and also the old "turn off
> NAV
> > > before installing etc.
> > > And
> > > > "oh by the way, our card requires at least a
> 300
> > > mhz processor.  So I
> > > > uninstalled, upgraded to the latest bios (May
> > > 2000?), turned off NAV,
> > > > reinstalled the drivers and re-installed the
> card.
> > >  Still no joy.  The
> > > site
> > > > survey showed no transmitters, and dlink tech
> > > support assured me that if
> > > > there was a transmitter I would see it
> regardless.
> > > >
> > > > Ignorant liars!
> > > >
> > > > Went back in and reconfigured the card in the
> > > laptop for channel 11 (it
> > > > defaulted to 3 and the router was on 11),
> played
> > > around with a couple of
> > > > other things and boom, I see a transmitter. 
> Went
> > > in to the router config
> > > > page and changed the SSID and sure enough the
> > > thing I'm seeing on the
> > > laptop
> > > > changes to match!  Still no connection though.
> > > >
> > > > Rebooted, played around some more and suddenly
> (no
> 
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