[AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort of)

"but it's as close as I could think of without getting too technical."

Thank you.  Much appreciated.  So a switch is like halfway between a hub and
a router?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Tanner III" <pctech at mybellybutton.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort of)


> A router and a switch are fundimentall different
> things.
>
> A router does just that.  It routes network traffic.
>
> A switch plays "traffic cop" for a network.
>
> Newer switches, especially the layer 3 and layer 4
> ones can perform both functions.This isn't an exact
> definition, but it's as close as I could think of
> without getting too technical.
>
> --- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> > Is there a difference between a switch and a router?
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Frank Tanner III" <pctech at mybellybutton.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> > solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 6:54 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort
> > of)
> >
> >
> > > I recommend "hardwiring" the IP address of any
> > device
> > > or server connected to your LAN that's not a
> > > workstation and is virtually always on.
> > >
> > > For the price, I would also highly recommend
> > removing
> > > all hubs from your network and using them as
> > > doorstops.  Switches have come way down in price
> > and
> > > have many benifits over hubs.
> > >
> > > Hubs divide the bandwidth across all ports.  Thus
> > if
> > > you have an 8-port 10-BaseT hub, all ports that
> > are
> > > processing data split that 10Mbit.  A switch, each
> > > port gets the fill bandwidth.
> > >
> > > That's not including the security issues inherent
> > with
> > > hubs as they broadcast all available data to all
> > > available ports rather than to the proper
> > destination
> > > port.
> > >
> > > --- John Colby <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > > Yes, you can indeed daisy chain routers and
> > > > SUPPOSEDLY hubs, though I had no
> > > > joy doing that with my old hub.  I am however
> > daisy
> > > > chaining my old 4 port
> > > > router off of my new 4 port wireless router.
> > The
> > > > newer models even figure
> > > > out what kind of cable you are using, crossover
> > or
> > > > regular.  The biggest
> > > > issue there was that the router was the dhcp
> > server
> > > > so I had to turn off the
> > > > old as a dhcp server and turn on the new.  I
> > also
> > > > hardwired the address of
> > > > the old router to 192.168.1.2.  Daisy Chaining
> > two 4
> > > > port routers isn't a
> > > > panacea however since you now end up using two
> > ports
> > > > just for the daisy
> > > > chain and have 6 left.  In my case though I also
> > > > have a wireless so I can
> > > > get my laptop in through that and could also get
> > > > other computers in if
> > > > needed.
> > > >
> > > > I have an old model I TIVO which I modded to use
> > the
> > > > internet to "call in"
> > > > for programming.  I had to snake a cable down
> > the
> > > > wall from the living room
> > > > (luckily exactly over my office in the
> > basement).  I
> > > > understand that the
> > > > model II has USB ports that can automatically
> > use
> > > > the USB wireless cards to
> > > > connect to the internet.
> > > >
> > > > John W. Colby
> > > > www.colbyconsulting.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:33 AM
> > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> > solving
> > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network
> > (sort
> > > > of)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John:
> > > >
> > > > I heard that you can daisy chain hubs off one of
> > the
> > > > ports on your router to
> > > > get more ports and that you can go up to 255
> > devices
> > > > from one router this
> > > > way.  Seems to easy and cheap, though.
> > > >
> > > > I've also found that when creating a new network
> > it
> > > > sometimes takes a few
> > > > minutes for the different shared devices to
> > 'see'
> > > > each other - especially on
> > > > the wireless.  So I'll whang around frustrated
> > > > trying to get the network to
> > > > work and then have the same experience you had -
> > > > after a few minutes,
> > > > suddenly the other machines are in my network
> > > > neighborhood.  Go figure.
> > > >
> > > > Rocky
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Colby" <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > > > To: "Database Advisors Inc. (Tech)"
> > > > <Dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>;
> > > > "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:39 PM
> > > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort
> > of)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I ordered a Netgear MR814v2 Wireless router a
> > > > couple of weeks ago.  I
> > > > needed
> > > > > to expand my 4 port router (I had 5 things I
> > kept
> > > > needing to plug in) and
> > > > > the Netgear was on sale at www.Newegg.com at
> > the
> > > > time.  I then tried and
> > > > > failed to install a linksys WPC11v2.5 I had
> > laying
> > > > around, so I ordered a
> > > > > dlink dwl-650 that was on sale (rebate) at
> > > > www.newegg.com.  Long story
> > > > > short, it didn't work.  Long story a little
> > > > longer, a very long call to
> > > > > dlink tech support, did not solve the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Or maaaaaybe it did.  After failing to figure
> > > > anything out, they
> > > > recommended
> > > > > that I upgrade my laptop bios.  It's an
> > ancient
> > > > (now) 233mhz PII Toshiba
> > > > > Satellite 4000 that I bought with my first
> > > > paycheck from my trip to work
> > > > for
> > > > > Mr. Breen in Dublin Ireland back in hmmm.....
> > > > November 1997?  Getting a
> > > > bit
> > > > > long in the tooth, truth be told.
> > > > >
> > > > > The bios upgrade and also the old "turn off
> > NAV
> > > > before installing etc.
> > > > And
> > > > > "oh by the way, our card requires at least a
> > 300
> > > > mhz processor.  So I
> > > > > uninstalled, upgraded to the latest bios (May
> > > > 2000?), turned off NAV,
> > > > > reinstalled the drivers and re-installed the
> > card.
> > > >  Still no joy.  The
> > > > site
> > > > > survey showed no transmitters, and dlink tech
> > > > support assured me that if
> > > > > there was a transmitter I would see it
> > regardless.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ignorant liars!
> > > > >
> > > > > Went back in and reconfigured the card in the
> > > > laptop for channel 11 (it
> > > > > defaulted to 3 and the router was on 11),
> > played
> > > > around with a couple of
> > > > > other things and boom, I see a transmitter.
> > Went
> > > > in to the router config
> > > > > page and changed the SSID and sure enough the
> > > > thing I'm seeing on the
> > > > laptop
> > > > > changes to match!  Still no connection though.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rebooted, played around some more and suddenly
> > (no
> >
> === message truncated ===
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