[AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort of)

It is sort of half-way, but not really.

Switches are a "generation" better.  Hubs and
switches, on their most basic level perform the same
function.  They distribute network traffic.  But HOW
they distribute that traffic is fundimentally
different.

Unless they're one of the newer layer 3 or layer 4
switches, they cannot perform routing functions.  They
just hand packets off from point A to point B.  Think
of them as sort of a postman.  They have an address
for each device on the network and they hand off each
piece of mail to the appropriate address.  A hub,
using this sama analagy would deliver the same piece
of mail to every house and the one that it belonged to
would be the one that actually reads it.

--- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> "but it's as close as I could think of without
> getting too technical."
> 
> Thank you.  Much appreciated.  So a switch is like
> halfway between a hub and
> a router?
> 
> Rocky
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frank Tanner III" <pctech at mybellybutton.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort
> of)
> 
> 
> > A router and a switch are fundimentall different
> > things.
> >
> > A router does just that.  It routes network
> traffic.
> >
> > A switch plays "traffic cop" for a network.
> >
> > Newer switches, especially the layer 3 and layer 4
> > ones can perform both functions.This isn't an
> exact
> > definition, but it's as close as I could think of
> > without getting too technical.
> >
> > --- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> > > Is there a difference between a switch and a
> router?
> > >
> > > Rocky
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Frank Tanner III"
> <pctech at mybellybutton.com>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> > > solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 6:54 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network
> (sort
> > > of)
> > >
> > >
> > > > I recommend "hardwiring" the IP address of any
> > > device
> > > > or server connected to your LAN that's not a
> > > > workstation and is virtually always on.
> > > >
> > > > For the price, I would also highly recommend
> > > removing
> > > > all hubs from your network and using them as
> > > > doorstops.  Switches have come way down in
> price
> > > and
> > > > have many benifits over hubs.
> > > >
> > > > Hubs divide the bandwidth across all ports. 
> Thus
> > > if
> > > > you have an 8-port 10-BaseT hub, all ports
> that
> > > are
> > > > processing data split that 10Mbit.  A switch,
> each
> > > > port gets the fill bandwidth.
> > > >
> > > > That's not including the security issues
> inherent
> > > with
> > > > hubs as they broadcast all available data to
> all
> > > > available ports rather than to the proper
> > > destination
> > > > port.
> > > >
> > > > --- John Colby <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > Yes, you can indeed daisy chain routers and
> > > > > SUPPOSEDLY hubs, though I had no
> > > > > joy doing that with my old hub.  I am
> however
> > > daisy
> > > > > chaining my old 4 port
> > > > > router off of my new 4 port wireless router.
> > > The
> > > > > newer models even figure
> > > > > out what kind of cable you are using,
> crossover
> > > or
> > > > > regular.  The biggest
> > > > > issue there was that the router was the dhcp
> > > server
> > > > > so I had to turn off the
> > > > > old as a dhcp server and turn on the new.  I
> > > also
> > > > > hardwired the address of
> > > > > the old router to 192.168.1.2.  Daisy
> Chaining
> > > two 4
> > > > > port routers isn't a
> > > > > panacea however since you now end up using
> two
> > > ports
> > > > > just for the daisy
> > > > > chain and have 6 left.  In my case though I
> also
> > > > > have a wireless so I can
> > > > > get my laptop in through that and could also
> get
> > > > > other computers in if
> > > > > needed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have an old model I TIVO which I modded to
> use
> > > the
> > > > > internet to "call in"
> > > > > for programming.  I had to snake a cable
> down
> > > the
> > > > > wall from the living room
> > > > > (luckily exactly over my office in the
> > > basement).  I
> > > > > understand that the
> > > > > model II has USB ports that can
> automatically
> > > use
> > > > > the USB wireless cards to
> > > > > connect to the internet.
> > > > >
> > > > > John W. Colby
> > > > > www.colbyconsulting.com
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > >
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> > > > > Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> > > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:33 AM
> > > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> > > solving
> > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network
> > > (sort
> > > > > of)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > John:
> > > > >
> > > > > I heard that you can daisy chain hubs off
> one of
> > > the
> > > > > ports on your router to
> > > > > get more ports and that you can go up to 255
> > > devices
> > > > > from one router this
> > > > > way.  Seems to easy and cheap, though.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've also found that when creating a new
> network
> > > it
> > > > > sometimes takes a few
> > > > > minutes for the different shared devices to
> > > 'see'
> > > > > each other - especially on
> > > > > the wireless.  So I'll whang around
> frustrated
> > > > > trying to get the network to
> > > > > work and then have the same experience you
> had -
> > > > > after a few minutes,
> > > > > suddenly the other machines are in my
> network
> > > > > neighborhood.  Go figure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rocky
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "John Colby"
> <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > > > > To: "Database Advisors Inc. (Tech)"
> > > > > <Dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>;
> > > > > "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:39 PM
> > > > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network
> (sort
> > > of)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I ordered a Netgear MR814v2 Wireless
> router a
> > > > > couple of weeks ago.  I
> > > > > needed
> 
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