[AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort of)

Frank Tanner III pctech at mybellybutton.com
Fri Oct 31 09:37:26 CST 2003


NetBIOS is on by default because it is a network
discovery protocol.  LAN Manager is an "old" method
that Microsoft networks used for discovery of network
objects, and authentication between said objects.

--- John Colby <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I thought it only used that stuff if you had that
> protocol enabled for that
> NIC.  AFAIK all my workstations only use TCPIP.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.colbyconsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> Behalf Of Jim Dettman
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:58 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort
> of)
> 
> 
> John,
> 
>   Win2K and WinXP still do LAN Manager and NETBIOS
> under the covers, so you
> still can have the same problems.  If you drill down
> in the registry under
> system services, you'll find all the LAN Manager
> settings still there.
> 
> Jim Dettman
> President,
> Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> Behalf Of John Colby
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:47 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort
> of)
> 
> 
> Win2K Pro all the way.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.colbyconsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> Behalf Of Frank Tanner
> III
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:47 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort
> of)
> 
> 
> If any of your other devices are running Windows 95,
> Windows 98, or Windows NT (server or workstation) it
> can, theoretically, take up to 45 minutes for them
> to
> show up on the network.  I say theoretically because
> they rarely take that long to show up but that is
> the
> timeout for Microsoft's "LAN Manager" browser
> elections to trickle down.
> 
> --- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> > John:
> >
> > I heard that you can daisy chain hubs off one of
> the
> > ports on your router to
> > get more ports and that you can go up to 255
> devices
> > from one router this
> > way.  Seems to easy and cheap, though.
> >
> > I've also found that when creating a new network
> it
> > sometimes takes a few
> > minutes for the different shared devices to 'see'
> > each other - especially on
> > the wireless.  So I'll whang around frustrated
> > trying to get the network to
> > work and then have the same experience you had -
> > after a few minutes,
> > suddenly the other machines are in my network
> > neighborhood.  Go figure.
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Colby" <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > To: "Database Advisors Inc. (Tech)"
> > <Dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>;
> > "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:39 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort of)
> >
> >
> > > I ordered a Netgear MR814v2 Wireless router a
> > couple of weeks ago.  I
> > needed
> > > to expand my 4 port router (I had 5 things I
> kept
> > needing to plug in) and
> > > the Netgear was on sale at www.Newegg.com at the
> > time.  I then tried and
> > > failed to install a linksys WPC11v2.5 I had
> laying
> > around, so I ordered a
> > > dlink dwl-650 that was on sale (rebate) at
> > www.newegg.com.  Long story
> > > short, it didn't work.  Long story a little
> > longer, a very long call to
> > > dlink tech support, did not solve the problem.
> > >
> > > Or maaaaaybe it did.  After failing to figure
> > anything out, they
> > recommended
> > > that I upgrade my laptop bios.  It's an ancient
> > (now) 233mhz PII Toshiba
> > > Satellite 4000 that I bought with my first
> > paycheck from my trip to work
> > for
> > > Mr. Breen in Dublin Ireland back in hmmm.....
> > November 1997?  Getting a
> > bit
> > > long in the tooth, truth be told.
> > >
> > > The bios upgrade and also the old "turn off NAV
> > before installing etc.
> > And
> > > "oh by the way, our card requires at least a 300
> > mhz processor.  So I
> > > uninstalled, upgraded to the latest bios (May
> > 2000?), turned off NAV,
> > > reinstalled the drivers and re-installed the
> card.
> >  Still no joy.  The
> > site
> > > survey showed no transmitters, and dlink tech
> > support assured me that if
> > > there was a transmitter I would see it
> regardless.
> > >
> > > Ignorant liars!
> > >
> > > Went back in and reconfigured the card in the
> > laptop for channel 11 (it
> > > defaulted to 3 and the router was on 11), played
> > around with a couple of
> > > other things and boom, I see a transmitter. 
> Went
> > in to the router config
> > > page and changed the SSID and sure enough the
> > thing I'm seeing on the
> > laptop
> > > changes to match!  Still no connection though.
> > >
> > > Rebooted, played around some more and suddenly
> (no
> > clear idea why) I have
> > a
> > > wireless connection, can browse my network and
> see
> > the web.  Yeaaaaa.
> > >
> > > Moral of the story, tech support generally
> sucks,
> > play around, don't quit,
> > > and eventually the gods will reward you.  Or
> not.
> > >
> > > Now, I need to know what to do to tighten this
> > thing up so that others
> > can't
> > > see my network.  I'm a bit afraid to touch
> > anything since I don't really
> > > know what I did to finally get it running.
> > >
> > > Can anyone walk me through tightening this up?
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > www.colbyconsulting.com
> > >
> > >
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