Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com
Thu Dec 9 10:09:07 CST 2004
It may be different for the versions supplied with a system, but for the retail purchased versions you certainly can transfer to another system as long as you remove from the original system. You are also allowed to install on both a desktop and a portable system as long as it is the same person using the software on both systems. See http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/2/5/12538ba0-3d24-4f00-aab1-dd9ff4aacfc9/en_client_eula.pdf On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:17:46 -0600, Lawhon, Alan C Contractor/Morgan Research <alan.lawhon at us.army.mil> wrote: > John: > > Excuse me for asking this silly question, but doesn't the EULA license > agreement for Windows and Office state explicitly that you are licensed > ONLY to use your copy of Windows (and Office) on a SINGLE COMPUTER and > you may NOT install - or transfer - your copy of Windows (and Office) to > another computer? Of course, I know that [probably] 99.9 percent of > Windows and Office users do this when they buy a new box, but strictly > speaking you are in violation of a legal agreement when you reinstall > your software on a new computer. > > Is this correct, or I am just confused? > > I purposely wait at least 2-3 years between major hardware/system > upgrades because by the time two or three years have passed, CPU speeds > have [at least] doubled (if not tripled) and major new versions of > Windows and Office have been released - which are usually preinstalled > with the new box. In effect, I auto-upgrade my software whenever I buy > new hardware - and I always stay totally legal - although it does seem > like I spend an awful lot on things like anti-virus software, firewall > software, "Anonymizer" software - not to mention all the database and > developer tool software ... Now I realize why I always have a high > credit card balance! > > > > Alan C. Lawhon > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:15 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap > > Alan, > > You are definitely too demanding. Look at the prices for notebooks. Sure > you can get a DELL, you can get it with Office installed. But you pay a LOT > for the privilege. I already own office, I purchased it separately. I own > it and I can move it from system to system as I please. If you get a > version installed on a laptop, it comes in that laptop's install / restore > disk which won't install on any other machine. That's just plain silly. > > Buy a good laptop, get the best price possible. Buy Office, get the best > price possible. > > Because you refused to buy a laptop without Office installed you missed out > on the best price for a laptop of that value I have EVER seen. So go ahead, > drop an extra 350 dollars and get less of a laptop with Office on it from > Dell. > > Not me! > > In fact I became a Microsoft "partner" and bought the action pack for $300. > I get TEN LICENSES for Office, Windows XP, SQL Server 2000 and a TON of > other stuff. Why in the world would I pay for a laptop with that stuff > installed? > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: > http://folding.stanford.edu/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawhon, Alan C > Contractor/Morgan Research > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:45 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap > > Bob: > > You ask a good question ... I may be "too demanding" or whatever, but, at a > minimum, I expect a computer to come with the current version of Windows - > and a decent version of Microsoft Office - irrespective of "how good" the > price may be. (I read an article several months ago on /. to the effect > that mass market PC sellers like Dell, Gateway, Toshiba and eMachines pay > Microsoft something like $49.00 for each copy of Windows; so the software IS > NOT a major component of system cost.) I figure that bundled "home > editions" of Windows and Office [together] probably cost the retail seller > somewhere around $125.00. > > I went down to Best Buy last Friday to check out the $750.00 (after > rebates) eMachines model M5405 notebook computer that John Colby had tipped > us about. Once I discovered that the M5405 DID NOT have Microsoft Office > installed, (it had some puny collection of utilities that it called > "Microsoft Works"), I said "Sayonara" on that deal and left the store. > > Alan C. Lawhon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:03 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap > > curious, did either of these come with actual disks for windows and such. > seems there is a trend towards not including such... > > sorry if too OT, > > bob heygood > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:38 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap > > Don't do it John, > > I never look at PC specs after I have purchased a PC, because no matter > what, you will see a better deal. > > I hope that you enjoy the new machine, > > Mark > > On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:38:59 -0500, John W. Colby > <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote: > > For all those who were not able to take advantage of the Emachines > > laptop (or didn't trust the brand) > > > > > http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1093468419744&type=product&skuId= > > 6851267&tab=6 > > > > A nice Toshiba for $650 after rebates. Not as much machine as the > Emachines > > but still a good deal. > > > > John W. 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