[AccessD] Good laptop cheap

Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com
Thu Dec 9 10:09:07 CST 2004


It may be different for the versions supplied with a system, but for
the retail purchased versions you certainly can transfer to another
system as long as you remove from the original system. You are also
allowed to install on both a desktop and a portable system as long as
it is the same person using the software on both systems.

See
http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/2/5/12538ba0-3d24-4f00-aab1-dd9ff4aacfc9/en_client_eula.pdf


On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:17:46 -0600, Lawhon, Alan C Contractor/Morgan
Research <alan.lawhon at us.army.mil> wrote:
> John:
> 
> Excuse me for asking this silly question, but doesn't the EULA license
> agreement for Windows and Office state explicitly that you are licensed
> ONLY to use your copy of Windows (and Office) on a SINGLE COMPUTER and
> you may NOT install - or transfer - your copy of Windows (and Office) to
> another computer?  Of course, I know that [probably] 99.9 percent of
> Windows and Office users do this when they buy a new box, but strictly
> speaking you are in violation of a legal agreement when you reinstall
> your software on a new computer.
> 
> Is this correct, or I am just confused?
> 
> I purposely wait at least 2-3 years between major hardware/system
> upgrades because by the time two or three years have passed, CPU speeds
> have [at least] doubled (if not tripled) and major new versions of
> Windows and Office have been released - which are usually preinstalled
> with the new box.  In effect, I auto-upgrade my software whenever I buy
> new hardware - and I always stay totally legal - although it does seem
> like I spend an awful lot on things like anti-virus software, firewall
> software, "Anonymizer" software - not to mention all the database and
> developer tool software ...  Now I realize why I always have a high
> credit card balance!
> 
> 
> 
> Alan C. Lawhon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:15 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap
> 
> Alan,
> 
> You are definitely too demanding.  Look at the prices for notebooks.  Sure
> you can get a DELL, you can get it with Office installed.  But you pay a LOT
> for the privilege.  I already own office, I purchased it separately.  I own
> it and I can move it from system to system as I please.  If you get a
> version installed on a laptop, it comes in that laptop's install / restore
> disk which won't install on any other machine.  That's just plain silly.
> 
> Buy a good laptop, get the best price possible.  Buy Office, get the best
> price possible.
> 
> Because you refused to buy a laptop without Office installed you missed out
> on the best price for a laptop of that value I have EVER seen.  So go ahead,
> drop an extra 350 dollars and get less of a laptop with Office on it from
> Dell.
> 
> Not me!
> 
> In fact I became a Microsoft "partner" and bought the action pack for $300.
> I get TEN LICENSES for Office, Windows XP, SQL Server 2000 and a TON of
> other stuff.  Why in the world would I pay for a laptop with that stuff
> installed?
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawhon, Alan C
> Contractor/Morgan Research
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:45 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap
> 
> Bob:
> 
> You ask a good question ...  I may be "too demanding" or whatever, but, at a
> minimum, I expect a computer to come with the current version of Windows -
> and a decent version of Microsoft Office - irrespective of "how good" the
> price may be.  (I read an article several months ago on /. to the effect
> that mass market PC sellers like Dell, Gateway, Toshiba and eMachines pay
> Microsoft something like $49.00 for each copy of Windows; so the software IS
> NOT a major component of system cost.)  I figure that bundled "home
> editions" of Windows and Office [together] probably cost the retail seller
> somewhere around $125.00.
> 
> I went down to Best Buy last Friday to check out the $750.00 (after
> rebates) eMachines model M5405 notebook computer that John Colby had tipped
> us about.  Once I discovered that the M5405 DID NOT have Microsoft Office
> installed, (it had some puny collection of utilities that it called
> "Microsoft Works"), I said "Sayonara" on that deal and left the store.
> 
> Alan C. Lawhon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:03 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap
> 
> curious, did either of these come with actual disks for windows and such.
> seems there is a trend towards not including such...
> 
> sorry if too OT,
> 
> bob heygood
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:38 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap
> 
> Don't do it John,
> 
> I never look at PC specs after I have purchased a PC, because no matter
> what, you will see a better deal.
> 
> I hope that you enjoy the new machine,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:38:59 -0500, John W. Colby
> <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > For all those who were not able to take advantage of the Emachines
> > laptop (or didn't trust the brand)
> >
> >
> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1093468419744&type=product&skuId=
> > 6851267&tab=6
> >
> > A nice Toshiba for $650 after rebates.  Not as much machine as the
> Emachines
> > but still a good deal.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
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