[AccessD] Mac address

John Bartow john at winhaven.net
Sun Jan 4 17:43:09 CST 2004


I was just wondering why the Main Circuit Board Serial Number isn't used for
this. It would seem to me that this would be about the most stable unique ID
number in a PC. I have no idea how you would read this number but it always
shows up in my hardware asset inventories.

Any comments?

John B.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:53 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mac address
>
>
> And how does that make the disk sn better.  That DOES change with every
> format (and every new HD).  When was the last time YOU changed your MAC
> address?  As form myself, I've NEVER done so.  When was the last YOU
> formatted (or replaced) your hard disk?  As for myself, at LEAST
> half dozen
> times over 4 systems just in the last 4 or 5 years.
>
> Hmmm.... Never or 1/2 dozen times...
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Haslett,
> Andrew
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:02 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mac address
>
>
> Hard Disk SN is far better than using the MAC address.  Jees, some BIOS
> these days even allow you to change your MAC address yourself.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2004 2:19 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mac address
>
> LOL.  I learned a long time ago not to sweat the small stuff.  If
> there are
> hackers figuring out how to hack Microsoft's $100 million copy
> protection, I
> am not going to survive a determined attempt to get around my stuff.
>
> On the other hand, I assume you lock your front door.  And I
> assume there is
> glass in the door that anyone who wants in could just smash to
> reach in and
> unlock your door.  So why do you bother?  Because the lock keeps
> 99% of the
> people out of your house.
>
> 99% is good enough for me.  I will not even bat an eyelash nor
> give a second
> thought to the other 1%.
>
> 99% of the effort COULD be spent stopping (or failing to stop)
> that last 1%.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mac address
>
>
> Take a look at http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/
> for a way to defeat this copy protection scheme.
>
> (Follow the link to "the research of Kyle Lai" for a lot of good
> info on MAC
> addresses)
>
>
> On 3 Jan 2004 at 13:34, John W. Colby wrote:
>
> > Yea, but you have to start somewhere.  More and more NICs are embedded
> right
> > in the motherboards so this is getting less and less likely.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:53 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Mac address
> >
> >
> > Hi John
> >
> > Hmm ... so the user changes his/hers NIC and is hosed ..?
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > > Date: 2004-01-03 18:14
> >
> > > Well... I'm looking at a machine specific piece for copy protection.
> The
> > > work station name might be specific to a network, but is created by
> > > the software (or user doing the install) so if the machine went down
> > > (as
> many
> > of
> > > mine have over the last few years) if the user didn't select the
> > > same
> name
> > > then the key wouldn't work.
> >
>
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