Ken Ismert
KIsmert at TexasSystems.com
Fri Jan 30 11:25:25 CST 2004
Gustav, In my estimation, the simplicity and flexibility that the Date Dimension table provides will outweigh its drawbacks for all but the most basic of date query tasks. For example, with a Date table, it would be possible to write a single parameterized query that would provide answers for a wide range of date related questions, like: * All January sales in the table * All sales for weeks with a holiday since 2000 * All weekend sales for June, July and August of 2002 The results could easily be returned an any text or numeric date format desired. While you could do all of this with date calculations and the Format function in one query, it would be very complex, and the computational overhead would likely be prohibitive. You'd probably be forced to break it into smaller queries, with the added maintainance that entails. Alternately, you could build a custom WHERE clause for each question, but you've only moved the complexity from the query to code. It also shines when you need to calculate working day intervals, as mentioned. I wish I had known about Date tables when I was developing a Purchase Order Expediting module, which needed to know the number of working days between the Order Date and the Required date. Using a properly setup Date table would have simplified my code, and provided better results. -Ken -----Original Message----- From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:53 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using Dates Hi Robert > I have been seeing a lot of people posting lately in many of the lists > about how to do different tings with dates. Here is what I do. I have > what is called a Date Dimension table. A dimension table is one used in > data warehouses. In this case, it is great for relational data also. The > date table has all of the things done to a date that can be done. Yes, Charlotte has mentioned this before and we had a thread touching this (Calculating days, July 2003). The main reason for reluctancy to follow your method would be the large amount of redundant data and the fact that Access is pretty fast in date operations using the built in functions except Format() which is slow. Thus, it may be faster to use Month() than to establish a join to a another table to look up the month of a date. However, there may be situations where that could be advantageous but I can see no reason to store both the month number as well as the string value of the month number. The example Charlotte mentioned was (I think) storing the holiday flag. Indeed, what should be stored in such a table should be values that can not - or only with some difficulty - be calculated like banking days which mostly follows days not being weekends/holidays but not always. Another example is working days. It could be useful to include field like Workingday_of_Month First_Workingday_In_Month_Flag Last_Workingday_In_Month_Flag Also, I would suggest flags stored as Boolean. /gustav > Here is > a sample structure: > Date_ID Date/Time (loaded using the date() function) PK > Year_Nbr Number, integer > Year_Txt Text(4) > Month_Nbr Number, byte > Month_Nbr_Txt Text(2) > Month_Name Text(15) > Month_Name_Abbrv Text(3) > Day_of_Month_Nbr Number, byte > Day_of_Month_Nbr Text(2) > Day_Of_Year_Nbr Number, integer > Week_Of_Year_Nbr Number, byte > Quarter_Nbr Number, byte > Quarter_Nbr_Txt Text(2) > Fiscal_Period Text(10) > Weekday_Flag Text(1) > Holiday_Flag Text(1) > Last_Day_In_Month_Flag Text(1) > By using this table joined to the date, you do not have to do any functions > against a date to filter by month, your, quarter, or whatever. > If anyone has questions about this, just send them to the list and I will > answer them as best I can. > Robert