William Hindman
wdhindman at bellsouth.net
Wed Mar 17 14:24:00 CST 2004
...I do the wrist exercises as well ...together with using a Logitech marble mouse and switching hands regularly during long sessions, I've not had any recurrence of severe, disabling CTS in my right wrist/arm/shoulder that three docs assured me the only cure for was surgery to cut the tendons in my wrist ...so much for getting second opinions :( William Hindman You know the world is upside down when Bill Clinton wins a Grammy and Janet Jackson is the subject of a government sex investigation. Argus Hamilton. ----- Original Message ----- From: <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:30 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Wrist/Arm Pain - was Short Date Input Mask quest ion > I've switched my mouse to left handed at work as well. What has really > helped the most for me is a quick set of wrist excercises I do each morning. > Takes about 2 minutes to do. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:09 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > > My solution for wrist/arm pain was to learn to use the mouse left-handed. > Back when I was working and consulting in the evenings, I would use the left > hand at work and right hand in the evenings. > > Now I just switch off. Nothing but occasional soreness now and again for > the last 4 years. > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:38 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > > > > > Hah! I got tendonitis in my thumb using a trackball. Had to > > go back to > > a mouse. That just shows that there is no single right answer. :-} > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:25 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > > > > > ...shortcut keys/number pad activate each calendar function > > ...and I've > > got every client converted to trackballs instead of mice ...I used to > > have severe CTS using a mouse but since moving to trackballs I've been > > symptom free :) > > > > William Hindman > > You know the world is upside down when Bill Clinton wins a Grammy and > > Janet Jackson is the subject of a government sex investigation. Argus > > Hamilton. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com> > > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:52 AM > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > Point taken. This was why I made the comment about mass > > data input. In > > point > > > of fact it is possible, though a bit clunky, to select a > > date with the > > > > > keyboard, and I should perhaps revisit the design on the > > form to make > > > it easier to do so. > > > > > > RSI is a serious problem, and I sympathize with your for having to > > > deal > > with > > > it. However it's not confined to mouse use, indeed I > > remember it first > > being > > > reported back in the 80's before mice very prevalent. In those days > > > the blame was laid at the door of the extreme ease with > > which computer > > keyboards > > > operated vs. manual typewriters. This allowed for very rapid > > > keystrokes, which was thought to be the root cause of RSI. > > > > > > I also see people who have bizarre ideas about how they should > > > position their keyboards and mice. In short there are lots > > of factors > > > involved, and at the end of the day the user has to figure out the > > > best way to use the d*mned machines. So, to reiterate, I think I'll > > > take the time to redesign > > my > > > date picker form to allow for better keyboard use of it. > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Bryan Carbonnell [SMTP:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:52 AM > > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > > > > > > > Lambert, > > > > > > > > It may work fine for you, but does it work for your users? Do you > > > > force them to use the mouse to select the date, or can they do > > > > everything they need to from the keyboard? > > > > > > > > The only reason I bring this up is that I have had RSI > > from moving > > > > between the mouse and keyboard for data entry too much. It got to > > > > the point where by 10 AM I could not feel my little > > finger and half > > > > of my lower arm becaude of it. > > > > > > > > As soon as I got one application that I used on a regular > > basis more > > > > > > keyboard friendly it helped. > > > > > > > > Just try to keep that in mind. I know I always do. I let > > users use > > > > the mouse or enter with the keyboard. Their choice. > > > > > > > > Bryan Carbonnell > > > > bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com 17-Mar-04 9:21:45 AM >>> > > > > My solution to date entry is simple - I never let user's > > type in a > > > > date. They always pick the date from a simple calendar > > form (though > > > > I don't use > > > > the MS Calendar control). Click on a date field and up > > pops the date > > > > picker. > > > > While this would not be suitable, perhaps, in applications where > > > > massive > > > > numbers of dates need to be entered, I find it works just fine for > > me. > > > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > AccessD mailing list > > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > ******* > 17/3/2004 > This transmittal may contain confidential information intended solely for > the addressee. 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