[AccessD] OT Wrist/Arm Pain - was Short Date Input Mask quest ion

Dan Waters dwaters at usinternet.com
Thu Mar 18 08:33:35 CST 2004


For me two things have eliminated all wrist pain.

First is that I try to use a split keyboard as much as possible.  This lets
my wrists stay straight while typing.  It took me about 2 weeks to get used
to it.

Second is that I use a very lightweight mouse.  I'm currently using a
Fellowes Mini Web Pro, which only weighs 2 or 3 ounces.  

Before doing the two things above, I occasionally had to stop for several
hours due to wrist pain, but not any more!

Most of my work is typing text/code and creating forms and reports.

Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:30 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Wrist/Arm Pain - was Short Date Input Mask quest
ion

I've switched my mouse to left handed at work as well.  What has really
helped the most for me is a quick set of wrist excercises I do each morning.
Takes about 2 minutes to do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question


My solution for wrist/arm pain was to learn to use the mouse left-handed.
Back when I was working and consulting in the evenings, I would use the left
hand at work and right hand in the evenings.

Now I just switch off.  Nothing but occasional soreness now and again for
the last 4 years.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:38 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question
> 
> 
> Hah!  I got tendonitis in my thumb using a trackball.  Had to 
> go back to
> a mouse.  That just shows that there is no single right answer. :-}
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:25 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question
> 
> 
> ...shortcut keys/number pad activate each calendar function 
> ...and I've
> got every client converted to trackballs instead of mice ...I used to
> have severe CTS using a mouse but since moving to trackballs I've been
> symptom free :)
> 
> William Hindman
> You know the world is upside down when Bill Clinton wins a Grammy and
> Janet Jackson is the subject of a government sex investigation. Argus
> Hamilton.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question
> 
> 
> > Bryan,
> >
> > Point taken. This was why I made the comment about mass 
> data input. In
> point
> > of fact it is possible, though a bit clunky, to select a 
> date with the
> 
> > keyboard, and I should perhaps revisit the design on the 
> form to make 
> > it easier to do so.
> >
> > RSI is a serious problem, and I sympathize with your for having to 
> > deal
> with
> > it. However it's not confined to mouse use, indeed I 
> remember it first
> being
> > reported back in the 80's before mice very prevalent. In those days 
> > the blame was laid at the door of the extreme ease with 
> which computer
> keyboards
> > operated vs. manual typewriters. This allowed for very rapid 
> > keystrokes, which was thought to be the root cause of RSI.
> >
> > I also see people who have bizarre ideas about how they should 
> > position their keyboards and mice. In short there are lots 
> of factors 
> > involved, and at the end of the day the user has to figure out the 
> > best way to use the d*mned machines. So, to reiterate, I think I'll 
> > take the time to redesign
> my
> > date picker form to allow for better keyboard use of it.
> >
> > Lambert
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bryan Carbonnell [SMTP:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:52 AM
> > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question
> > >
> > > Lambert,
> > >
> > > It may work fine for you, but does it work for your users? Do you 
> > > force them to use the mouse to select the date, or can they do 
> > > everything they need to from the keyboard?
> > >
> > > The only reason I bring this up is that I have had RSI 
> from moving 
> > > between the mouse and keyboard for data entry too much. It got to 
> > > the point where by 10 AM I could not feel my little 
> finger and half 
> > > of my lower arm becaude of it.
> > >
> > > As soon as I got one application that I used on a regular 
> basis more
> 
> > > keyboard friendly it helped.
> > >
> > > Just try to keep that in mind. I know I always do. I let 
> users use 
> > > the mouse or enter with the keyboard. Their choice.
> > >
> > > Bryan Carbonnell
> > > bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca
> > >
> > >
> > > >>> Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com 17-Mar-04 9:21:45 AM >>>
> > > My solution to date entry is simple - I never let user's 
> type in a 
> > > date. They always pick the date from a simple calendar 
> form (though 
> > > I don't use
> > > the MS Calendar control). Click on a date field and up 
> pops the date
> > > picker.
> > > While this would not be suitable, perhaps, in applications where
> > > massive
> > > numbers of dates need to be entered, I find it works just fine for
> me.
> > >
> > > Lambert
> > >
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