Charlotte Foust
cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Thu Mar 18 10:28:06 CST 2004
I've never had wrist problems from typing, only from reaching out and up to use the mouse. A keyboard shelf with and articlating mouse shelf puts the mouse level with the wrist rest for the keyboard, and I haven't had any problems since. PS/ I *hate* split keyboards and those ergonomic nightmares. I CANNOT type with my elbows stuck out like open doors! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:34 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Wrist/Arm Pain - was Short Date Input Mask quest ion For me two things have eliminated all wrist pain. First is that I try to use a split keyboard as much as possible. This lets my wrists stay straight while typing. It took me about 2 weeks to get used to it. Second is that I use a very lightweight mouse. I'm currently using a Fellowes Mini Web Pro, which only weighs 2 or 3 ounces. Before doing the two things above, I occasionally had to stop for several hours due to wrist pain, but not any more! Most of my work is typing text/code and creating forms and reports. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Wrist/Arm Pain - was Short Date Input Mask quest ion I've switched my mouse to left handed at work as well. What has really helped the most for me is a quick set of wrist excercises I do each morning. Takes about 2 minutes to do. -----Original Message----- From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question My solution for wrist/arm pain was to learn to use the mouse left-handed. Back when I was working and consulting in the evenings, I would use the left hand at work and right hand in the evenings. Now I just switch off. Nothing but occasional soreness now and again for the last 4 years. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:38 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > > Hah! I got tendonitis in my thumb using a trackball. Had to > go back to > a mouse. That just shows that there is no single right answer. :-} > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:25 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > > ...shortcut keys/number pad activate each calendar function > ...and I've > got every client converted to trackballs instead of mice ...I used to > have severe CTS using a mouse but since moving to trackballs I've been > symptom free :) > > William Hindman > You know the world is upside down when Bill Clinton wins a Grammy and > Janet Jackson is the subject of a government sex investigation. Argus > Hamilton. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:52 AM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > > > Bryan, > > > > Point taken. This was why I made the comment about mass > data input. In > point > > of fact it is possible, though a bit clunky, to select a > date with the > > > keyboard, and I should perhaps revisit the design on the > form to make > > it easier to do so. > > > > RSI is a serious problem, and I sympathize with your for having to > > deal > with > > it. However it's not confined to mouse use, indeed I > remember it first > being > > reported back in the 80's before mice very prevalent. In those days > > the blame was laid at the door of the extreme ease with > which computer > keyboards > > operated vs. manual typewriters. This allowed for very rapid > > keystrokes, which was thought to be the root cause of RSI. > > > > I also see people who have bizarre ideas about how they should > > position their keyboards and mice. In short there are lots > of factors > > involved, and at the end of the day the user has to figure out the > > best way to use the d*mned machines. So, to reiterate, I think I'll > > take the time to redesign > my > > date picker form to allow for better keyboard use of it. > > > > Lambert > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bryan Carbonnell [SMTP:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:52 AM > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > > > > > Lambert, > > > > > > It may work fine for you, but does it work for your users? Do you > > > force them to use the mouse to select the date, or can they do > > > everything they need to from the keyboard? > > > > > > The only reason I bring this up is that I have had RSI > from moving > > > between the mouse and keyboard for data entry too much. It got to > > > the point where by 10 AM I could not feel my little > finger and half > > > of my lower arm becaude of it. > > > > > > As soon as I got one application that I used on a regular > basis more > > > > keyboard friendly it helped. > > > > > > Just try to keep that in mind. I know I always do. I let > users use > > > the mouse or enter with the keyboard. Their choice. > > > > > > Bryan Carbonnell > > > bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca > > > > > > > > > >>> Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com 17-Mar-04 9:21:45 AM >>> > > > My solution to date entry is simple - I never let user's > type in a > > > date. They always pick the date from a simple calendar > form (though > > > I don't use > > > the MS Calendar control). Click on a date field and up > pops the date > > > picker. > > > While this would not be suitable, perhaps, in applications where > > > massive numbers of dates need to be entered, I find it works just > > > fine for > me. > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ************************************************************************ **** ******* 17/3/2004 This transmittal may contain confidential information intended solely for the addressee. 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