[AccessD] FMS gone nuts?

...I have the '97 Suite somewhere ...used to use the Analyzer and Detective
tools quite a bit when doing y2k conversions and db documentation ...but as
I learned more and the price escalated, I just didn't feel it was worth the
money when I moved to AXP ...and I really don't mind paying for value when
it comes to tools ...never used a single one of their components since they
were imo bloat code when better vba versions were available ...incorporated
the Memo in a beta db once but discarded it for a better solution ...just
too little for too much :(

...if the tools were a tenth the price they'd probably sell like hot cakes
...but its their business, not mine.

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] FMS gone nuts?


> Don't hold your breath for a sweet deal, John.  The 97 tools don't work
> with 2000 and up and the XP tools don't work with 97 and the upgrade
> path makes little or no difference in the price of the new version.  The
> tools have become outrageously expensive in my view, and even in our
> office, we only have a single copy because we almost never use them for
> anything.  I don't like the Analyzer.  I think it's about as flakey as
> it can be, and I see little point in their other tools.  They started
> out as Access tools, but now they try to be VB/VBA tools, and I don't
> think they do a good job of it.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:46 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] FMS gone nuts?
>
>
> Just to clarify, I don't dislike FMS. I, in fact, own their Access
> developer suite. I rarely use a lot of it but like Jim I like the Access
> Components. I just have replaced them with native Access code when I
> have the time to do so. I also like the RTF control capabilities. I also
> use the analytical packages when I need to. Their products save time and
> that is what justifies their existence. When I'm in a crunch I will buy
> something that saves time me rather than develop it myself - time is
> money and time is my life! I have rarely encountered an bug/crash issue
> with their products. Problem with me is the upgrade cost. I will not
> upgrade to have a copy that will work with every single version of
> Access. So when A97 is no longer my major dev. platform I will not be
> using FMS tools (unless they give me a sweeeet deal).
>
> I get their flyers and noticed this new startup tool and kind of
> chuckled that they must monitor this forum because we do have the topic
> show up every now and then. But like Gustav mentioned, it is a problem
> which is easily solved. I just think there are people managing Access
> apps & DBs that don't code and can't follow that logic so they will buy
> this product. Fine with me.
>
> I appreciate that other people here roll their own. Remember, we have in
> the mist of this list some very talented people! That's why it is a
> great list talented people that aren't too brash with people that need
> help. Some lists I am on are not so nice to people that need help - in
> fact the responses can be downright rude and nasty. Even when people
> don't agree on a subject here they stay civil about it. For instance Ken
> and Drew were passionately debating some issue awhile ago and even after
> numerous attempts at trying to convince each other that their opinion
> was the correct opinion neither one of them started flaming the other -
> that's very cool.
>
> John
>
>
>
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