[AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications..

Charlotte Foust cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Thu Aug 18 12:30:33 CDT 2005


Not interesting, Shamil, FASCINATING!  Yes, I do hope you continue this
thread.  Please!  I've often thought of this kind of thing but have
never had time to really pursue it.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications..


Charlotte,

Your <VBG> means you're interested in continuation of this
subject/thread or...? In my plans is to extend and make all the source
code available. How soon it will happen this is an open question - I
have an urgent project here. But I do plan to continue this thread and
work if this looks interesting for you and others here. Maybe even make
it open source project here when first useful results will be achieved?
It would be interesting I guess to make it also XP(eXtreme Programming)
style work with your being subject area expert - I mean your best
knowing in what scenarios and in what business areas is the best to use
MS Access in bound but disconnected mode with most of the software (MS
Access FE
databases) developed by power users but integrated by "mighty MS Access
developers"? :)

I know how to do all that, I know how to make MS Access applications
assembly factories etc. - I have all that experience and I can share it
if/when I will have spare time - is that interesting?

Shamil


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications..


> Oooohhh, I think I'm in love!  <VBG>
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:46 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications..
>
>
> No, William, this is not replication - here is what I mean in short:
>
> http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/articles/ddo.htm
>
> Shamil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <dejpolsys at hotmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications..
>
>
> > Shamil
> >
> > ..I must be missing something ...that sounds like replication to me.
> >
> > William
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at users.mns.ru>
> > To: "!DBA-MAIN" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:28 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications..
> >
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I wanted to ask you - what about the subject?
> > > Anybody uses/interested to use MS Access client applications this 
> > > way?
> > >
> > > Do I miss obvious (RTFM) stuff and such a disconnected mode is 
> > > already implemented in MS Access and broadly used by MS Access 
> > > developers? Yes,
> I
> > > know ADO recordsets can be used with bound MS Access forms etc. 
> > > but this looks like a rather limited feature - am I wrong?
> > >
> > > What I mean is cashing data locally into mdbs, only the data 
> > > needed for the currently open form(s) etc., processing this data 
> > > and then updating backend database(mdb, MSDE, MS SQL, whatever...)

> > > - with all this cashing and updating made mostly automatically by 
> > > a tiny framework code, based
> on
> > > ADO.NET...(yes, this local caching of data is not a new subject 
> > > but nowadays it can be (re-)implement really scalable way with a 
> > > way less efforts
> than
> > > before)
> > >
> > > Maybe MS plans to do something like that?
> > >
> > > Is that a wheel reinvention or anybody here sees such opportunity 
> > > like a really useful feature in their real life projects?
> > >
> > > For me it looks like a useful feature because it could help: to 
> > > get MS Access back into mainstream development area because it 
> > > will allow to easily scale applications with MS Access 
> > > front-ends...
> > >
> > > There are many other ideas but most of them in this "ideas pool" 
> > > based
> on
> > > the subject one - if it doesn't make sense for real-life projects 
> > > then
> I'd
> > > better stop working on it...
> > >
> > > What is your opinion about the subject?
> > > When you expect MS will do something like that in MS Access?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Shamil
> > >
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