Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at users.mns.ru
Thu Aug 18 13:04:12 CDT 2005
> but have never had time to really pursue it. Yes, the same thoughts/experience here. Finally ADO.NET and WithEvents should make it rather easy to implement... I think/plan, I will return to this subject end of the next week, hopefully with some new results to publish as public domain/open source... Meanwhile I have to finish reading two books about XP in C# and "MS Object Thinking" and make some experiments in ADO.NET and a good progress in a pending urgent project... Any ideas about directions in which to develop this small project are very welcome! Thank you for your support! Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > Not interesting, Shamil, FASCINATING! Yes, I do hope you continue this > thread. Please! I've often thought of this kind of thing but have > never had time to really pursue it. > > Charlotte Foust > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:02 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > > Charlotte, > > Your <VBG> means you're interested in continuation of this > subject/thread or...? In my plans is to extend and make all the source > code available. How soon it will happen this is an open question - I > have an urgent project here. But I do plan to continue this thread and > work if this looks interesting for you and others here. Maybe even make > it open source project here when first useful results will be achieved? > It would be interesting I guess to make it also XP(eXtreme Programming) > style work with your being subject area expert - I mean your best > knowing in what scenarios and in what business areas is the best to use > MS Access in bound but disconnected mode with most of the software (MS > Access FE > databases) developed by power users but integrated by "mighty MS Access > developers"? :) > > I know how to do all that, I know how to make MS Access applications > assembly factories etc. - I have all that experience and I can share it > if/when I will have spare time - is that interesting? > > Shamil > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:35 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > > > Oooohhh, I think I'm in love! <VBG> > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:46 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > > > > > No, William, this is not replication - here is what I mean in short: > > > > http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/articles/ddo.htm > > > > Shamil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Hindman" <dejpolsys at hotmail.com> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:47 AM > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > > > > > > Shamil > > > > > > ..I must be missing something ...that sounds like replication to me. > > > > > > William > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at users.mns.ru> > > > To: "!DBA-MAIN" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:28 PM > > > Subject: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I wanted to ask you - what about the subject? > > > > Anybody uses/interested to use MS Access client applications this > > > > way? > > > > > > > > Do I miss obvious (RTFM) stuff and such a disconnected mode is > > > > already implemented in MS Access and broadly used by MS Access > > > > developers? Yes, > > I > > > > know ADO recordsets can be used with bound MS Access forms etc. > > > > but this looks like a rather limited feature - am I wrong? > > > > > > > > What I mean is cashing data locally into mdbs, only the data > > > > needed for the currently open form(s) etc., processing this data > > > > and then updating backend database(mdb, MSDE, MS SQL, whatever...) > > > > > - with all this cashing and updating made mostly automatically by > > > > a tiny framework code, based > > on > > > > ADO.NET...(yes, this local caching of data is not a new subject > > > > but nowadays it can be (re-)implement really scalable way with a > > > > way less efforts > > than > > > > before) > > > > > > > > Maybe MS plans to do something like that? > > > > > > > > Is that a wheel reinvention or anybody here sees such opportunity > > > > like a really useful feature in their real life projects? > > > > > > > > For me it looks like a useful feature because it could help: to > > > > get MS Access back into mainstream development area because it > > > > will allow to easily scale applications with MS Access > > > > front-ends... > > > > > > > > There are many other ideas but most of them in this "ideas pool" > > > > based > > on > > > > the subject one - if it doesn't make sense for real-life projects > > > > then > > I'd > > > > better stop working on it... > > > > > > > > What is your opinion about the subject? > > > > When you expect MS will do something like that in MS Access? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Shamil > > > > > > > > -- > > > > AccessD mailing list > > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > -- > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com