[AccessD] Is this possible (X-posted)

Jim DeMarco Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org
Mon Dec 12 12:18:21 CST 2005


Shamil,

First I'll try to clarify my intent then I'll answer your questions directly.

I'm trying to eliminate the need for a desktop application for the data transfer process and file schema creation process.  I'd like users to log on to our portal.  We store a database that contains the connect string for their server database (on their server).  When a user logs on we check the organization ID which links to the correct connect string.  We then use that string to validate the user at their own SQL database (via Web Service).  I think I see a problem with this as we'd have access to each users password via the log on.  What do you think?

Then I'd like to create some data access screens on our portal but the data displayed would come from their SQL databases (accessed via Web Service).

>> local PC will have Web Server
We prefer not to do this.  Why not a Winforms app if this is the case?  I'd still have to provide updates to the client app which I'm trying to avoid.

>>you wanted your users to connect to the Web
>> Server, pass their ID and then Web Server's application use data entry forms
>>generated on Web Server to access user's local data via user's local Web
>> Server's Web Services
No (or sort of).  Data entry forms are on our portal but linked (or pointing to) their SQL server database (not local),  Web services are hosted here as well.

You raise an interesting point however.  My first go at designing this platform was to let each agency host the web services. Then all we have to do is point at the web service to get data.  Does that make more sense?

I'm trying to take the path of least resistance when it comes to deployment and maintenance which is why I'd like to host the UI and web services if possible.  I'd really like one set of web-based UI tools but the ability to connect to many datasources  (which are identical as it's the BE to our app).

Please let me know if I've made mud from mud.

Jim D.



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Salakhetdinov
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<<<
The question is: Can I do this via web services?
>>>
No.
And yes - I mean if you local PC will have Web Server with exposed to the
Outer World Web Services then these Web Services can communicate with
central web server's Web Services. But such system architecture would look
weird to say the least...

<<<
That done, can I then create data entry forms against their local copy of
the apps database?
>>>
You can export/import data using Web Services - that's clear.

The rest sounds unclear - you wanted your users to connect to the Web
Server, pass their ID and then Web Server's application use data entry forms
generated on Web Server to access user's local data via user's local Web
Server's Web Services?

Looks confusing but probably doable.

Why not have data entry forms running in local application and use data
export/import via Web Services?

Do you mean you wanted to have one Web Server with WebServices and one
ASP.NET application running on your server, and connecting to the local PCs'
database via "something like Web Services"?

Shamil


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim DeMarco" <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: "VB List (E-mail)" <dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD (E-mail)"
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Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 7:08 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Is this possible (X-posted)


> dba-VB
> AccessD
>
> List,
>
> We have a VB/SQL app that we are actively marketing to other health plans
and county social service agencies that handles enrollments into Medicaid
and other government funded health programs.  I have a need to transmit the
apps data electronically from a health plan to a county agency.  Yes we can
simply FTP a file and let an agency pull the data down but it's not quite
that simple.  Different agencies have different needs for the data (some
have IT resources, some don't, some need data input to send data back to
plan some don't).
>
> My vision is a web portal where the county can define what data the plan
should send them and define a file of what data they'll send back to the
plan. My app should read the file and generate the appropriate export file
and import data correctly based on the county's export (if any).
>
> Using .NET technologies I'd like the portal to also have the ability to
connect to the local copy of my app's database for authentication and data
access.  The question is: Can I do this via web services?  Can a user log on
to my portal passing me a site ID so I know where their local database
resides for authentication?  That done, can I then create data entry forms
against their local copy of the apps database?
>
> We'd rather not host all data here (competing plans may use the app and
probably wouldn't care for that arrangement!)
>
> Hopefully this isn't too confusing and someone can enlighten me.
>
> TIA,
>
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
>
>
>
>
>
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