[AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?

Tom Bolton tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk
Wed Feb 2 04:19:42 CST 2005


Mark

Just found this connection string for OLE DB:

Provider=Ifxoledbc.2;password=myPw;User ID=myUser;Data
Source=dbName at serverName;

Might work if you're using OLE DB drivers?

Cheers
Tom



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 31 January 2005 16:02
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?

Tom,

Below is the SQL( with changes you suggested) and where I'm hitting a 
problem:
    strSQL = "SELECT case_id FROM ps_rc_case WHERE case_id = 100;"
    rsRecordset.Open strSQL, cnConnection, adOpenKeyset, adLockReadOnly
    Do While Not rsRecordset.EOF
        Debug.Print rsRecordset("case_id")  'HERE IS WHERE I GET THE ERROR
        rsRecordset.MoveNext
    Loop

****************
Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Mark

P.S...No Legal software...just pulling some adhoc volume from a reporting 
DB.

>From: Tom Bolton <tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:39:01 -0000
>
>Mark
>
>I take it your connection is opening without error?
>
>Are you referencing the tablename in the recordset field, i.e.
>rsResults("ps_rc_case.case_id")?  ADO doesn't like this, just leave out the
>tablename i.e. rsResults("case_id") for the time being and see if that 
>gives
>you any more luck.  You can also reference recordset fields using integer
>ordinals i.e. rsResults(1) or rsResults.Fields(1) - Fields is the default
>(collection) property.
>
>Also, try leaving out the brackets () from your SQL query that Access so
>loves to randomly insert.
>
>If you can, download a program called WinSQL
>(http://www.synametrics.com/winsql ).  You can use this Enterprise
>Manager-style tool test out your queries before you try and pull the data
>with ADO - I've found it's a great help.
>
>BTW (just out of plain curiosity), you're not working on any kind of
>law/legal firm software are you?
>
>Cheers
>Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com]
>Sent: 31 January 2005 14:13
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
>
>Tom,
>
>Just for testing...I tried to pull 1 record and 1 field using:
>strSQL = "SELECT ps_rc_case.case_id FROM ps_rc_case WHERE
>(((ps_rc_case.case_id) = 100));"
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks, Again,
>
>Mark
>
> >From: Tom Bolton <tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
> >Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:14:24 -0000
> >
> >Hi Mark
> >
> >What does your SQL query look like?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com]
> >Sent: 28 January 2005 17:41
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
> >
> >Ok...I think I'm almost there.  With a little tweaking I've made it to:
> >Debug.Print rsRecordset("myField1")  'etc...
> >
> >Then I get this error:"Multiple-step OLE DB operation generated errors.
> >Check eash OLE DB status value, if available.  No work was done."
> >
> >Any suggestions?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >
> > >From: Tom Bolton <tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
> > >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:38:07 -0000
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >No probs, the following will retrieve data into an ADO recordset.  
>Check
> > >the
> > >syntax first mind, as I'm just freestyling this into my email editor...
> > >
> > >		Dim rsRecordset as ADODB.Recordset
> > >		Dim cnConnection as ADODB.Connection
> > >
> > >		Dim strConnectionString as String
> > >		Dim strSQL as String
> > >
> > >	' instantiate data objects
> > >	set rsRecordset = New ADODB.Recordset
> > >	Set cnConnection = New ADODB.Connection
> > >
> > >	' connection string
> > >	strConnectionString =
> >
>
>"DSN=mydsn;UID=myUID;PWD=myPWD;DATABASE=myDB;HOST=myHost;SRVR=myServer;SERV
> >=
> > >myPortNumber;PRO=onsoctcp;"
> > >
> > >	' opne connection
> > >	cnConnection.Open strConnectionString
> > >
> > >	' query
> > >	strSQL = "SELECT blah blah FROM yadda yadda WHERE some things"
> > >
> > >	' pull records
> > >	' keyset cursor type is compatible with DAO
> > >	rsRecordset.open strSQL, cnConnection, adOpenKeyset, adLockReadOnly
> > >
> > >
> > >	' loop through recordset
> > >	Do While Not rsRecordset.EOF
> > >
> > >		Debug.Print rsRecordset("myField1")  'etc...
> > >
> > >		rsRecordset.MoveNext
> > >
> > >	Loop
> > >
> > >
> > >This should get you started - remember, 
>http://www.connectionstrings.com
> >if
> > >you get stuck on the connection string.  You'll need a reference set to
> >MS
> > >ActiveX Data Objects.
> > >
> > >HTH
> > >Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com]
> > >Sent: 27 January 2005 19:56
> > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
> > >
> > >Tom,
> > >
> > >">Mark - instead of using APPEND queries, would it not be any faster to
> > >pull
> > > >the data from Informix in an ADO recordset - I'm doing this via ODBC 
>as
> > > >this
> > > >is how our Terminal Servers are set up >:¬( - then open a DAO 
>recordset
> > >on
> > > >your Access table, and loop round in a do...while copying the records
> > >from
> > > >one to the other"
> > >
> > >I've never used ADO...can you send a sample of code?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Tom Bolton <tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk>
> > > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> > > >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> > > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
> > > >Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:57:05 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Mark (and Jim)
> > > >
> > > >Sorry for the delay, had a bit on yesterday.  There are indeed
> >ADO/OLEDB
> > > >drivers for Informix, a colleague has installed one but is having a
> > >little
> > > >difficulty with the connection string.  Try
> > > >http://www.connectionstrings.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Mark - instead of using APPEND queries, would it not be any faster to
> > >pull
> > > >the data from Informix in an ADO recordset - I'm doing this via ODBC 
>as
> > > >this
> > > >is how our Terminal Servers are set up >:¬( - then open a DAO 
>recordset
> > >on
> > > >your Access table, and loop round in a do...while copying the records
> > >from
> > > >one to the other?  Jim has an excellent link explicitly explaining 
>how
> >to
> > > >do
> > > >just this.  However, I've a sneaking suspicion that he's right, and
> >ODBC
> > >is
> > > >at the bottom of your woes - definitely worth exploring OLEDB, as
> > >methinks
> > > >ODBC is a little old-hat these days.
> > > >
> > > >It might just be me (ASP/Oracle/SQL Server background) but I like to
> >try
> > > >and
> > > >avoid letting Jet anywhere near anything that's not solely concerned
> >with
> > > >Access FE tables (for which, of course, it's excellent).
> > > >
> > > >Cheers
> > > >Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> > > >Sent: 27 January 2005 04:48
> > > >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
> > > >
> > > >Hi Mark:
> > > >
> > > >Your bottle-neck is ODBC. The only way around that is if there is a
> > >direct
> > > >ADO-OLE equivalent. I am sure there are ADO drivers for every version
> >of
> > > >Informix...check these out:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>http://www.gold-software.com/LuxenadbExpressdriverforInformixPro-review9342
> > >.
> > > >htm (ADO type driver... shareware.
> > > >
> > > >You can download the driver from IBM at:
> > > >http://www.ibm.com/products/finder/us/en/finders?pg=ddfinder
> > > >
> > > >To then use it the code is something like this:
> > > >
> > > >Dim objConn As ADODB.Connection
> > > >Dim gsConnectionString as String
> > > >
> > > >gsConnectionString = "Provider=Ifxoledbc;Password=pass; Persist
> >Security
> > > >Info=True;User ID=user;Data Source=market_report;"
> > > >
> > > >objConn.connectionstring = gsConnectionString
> > > >objConn.Open
> > > >
> > > >HTH
> > > >Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A 
>Matte
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 6:49 AM
> > > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
> > > >
> > > >Hello All,
> > > >
> > > >Every week I do pulls from Informix to A97 using ODBC.  1 of my pulls
> >now
> > > >is
> > > >
> > > >around 1 million records.  I use temp tables and append queries.  
>This
> > >can
> > > >take a few hours.  Some of the replies in this thread imply there is 
>a
> > >much
> > > >'better/faster' way.  Without changing versions of Access...is there 
>a
> > >way
> > > >to 'tweak'/'speed up' this data pull?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >Mark
> > > >
> > > > >From: Roz Clarke <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk>
> > > > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> > > > >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> > > > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
> > > > >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:52:19 -0000
> > > > >
> > > > >Informix doesn't support XML afaik ><
> > > > >
> > > > >We did think about this as a way around connection issues for SQL
> > >Server
> > > > >when we thought that we would have our main db replicating to SQL
> > >Server
> > > > >rather than Informix - our recordsets are going to be up to about 
>50k
> > > >rows
> > > > >I
> > > > >think. I don't know how XML would perform with that volume of data
> >but
> > > >it's
> > > > >academic for now.
> > > > >
> > > > >Roz
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> > > > >Sent: 24 January 2005 20:58
> > > > >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > > > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >How much data?  Can it export it to an XML file in a location where
> > >your
> > > >fe
> > > > >can use it?  XML has a high overhead but can be useful in cases 
>like
> > > >this.
> > > > >
> > > > >John W. Colby
> > > > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > > > >
> > > > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > > > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz 
>Clarke
> > > > >Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 10:23 AM
> > > > >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > > > >Subject: [AccessD] Data from Informix to Access - dirty reads?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi all
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >We have a bit of a problem with getting data out of our Informix
> >server
> > > > >since we recently turned on transaction logging for replication. 
>When
> > > > >extracting data with an Access XP MDE using pass-through queries,
> > >Access
> > > > >locks entire tables in the Informix database, which causes
> >transaction
> > > > >errors and makes the Informix database scarily unstable.
> > > > >
> > > > >Our Informix suppliers told us that the way to avoid these locking
> > >issues
> > > > >was to set the connection to 'dirty read' before running the SQL.
> > > >However,
> > > > >Access cannot execute 2 statements in a pass-through query and it
> >does
> > > >not
> > > > >hold the connection open between the execution of 1 statement and 
>the
> > > >next.
> > > > >Thus when the query is processed the 'dirty read' setting is no
> >longer
> > >in
> > > > >effect.
> > > > >
> > > > >We have been racking our brains trying to come up with a 
>workaround.
> > >Some
> > > > >further options that we have considered are:
> > > > >
> > > > >*	Stick the data in a temp table in Informix. This is no good
>because
> > > > >the temp table is destroyed automatically when the connection is
> >closed
> > > >and
> > > > >there's no way to make it persist long enough to bind it to a 
>report.
> > > > >*	Use a view in Informix. This is no good because views in
>Informix
> > > > >cannot be set read-only.
> > > > >*	Create a permanent table in Informix and destroy it when
>finished
> > > > >with it. This is far from ideal because Informix does not support
> > >SELECT
> > > > >INTO and therefore a table would have to be explicitly constructed
> >with
> > > > >names columns etc. We really need the system to be flexible so that
> >the
> > > > >queries can be easily changed.
> > > > >*	Use an ADO recordset. This is a PITA because you cannot bind
>a
> > > > >report to a recordset in an MDE and we cannot build the report on 
>the
> > >fly
> > >
> > > >-
> > > > >we are a Terminal Services site so we will have up to 20 users in 
>one
> > >FE.
> > > > >*	Create a table in Access and destroy it when finished with
>it.
> >Can't
> > > > >think of a better way to induce bloating...
> > > > >
> > > > >Has anyone faced this kind of problem before? Any bright ideas? Our
> > > > >foreheads are starting to bleed...
> > > > >
> > > > >TIA
> > > > >
> > > > >Roz (and Tom)
> > > > >
> > > > >
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