[AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Fri Feb 18 12:08:22 CST 2005


OT 

Well, you have managed to describe the current US system except you pay a
lot more, (unfortunately to middle-men, insurance companies make fortunes.)
many of the population has nothing and is poised to loss everything if they
get sick or have an accident. Having money and being able to jump the queue
is a universal situation...no system has stops that. If you aren't wealthy,
or you can not afford it, or your coverage is not enough and you die, too
bad. 

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Universal health plan?  Does that mean where NOBODY has decent medical
coverage?  In countries with "universal" medical, you get in line for
health care.  If you're wealthy, you can jump the queue by paying for
your care.  If you aren't wealthy and you die before it's your turn for
the transplant, pacemaker, dialysis, whatever, too bad.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:40 AM
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OT: Totally
Hi John:

Do you think they will have a 'universal' health plan in place in US in
the next ten years like some 'Democrats' have been talking about?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Yea, the days of working for IBM for 40 years and retiring at X% of
salary and full medical are over.  The kid graduating from college today
will likely have at LEAST 5 to 10 jobs over 40 years and in the not too
distant future will be damned lucky to have any medical, even while
working.  

I was reading on the internet (MSNBC) the other day that the company
average cost of medical per worker covered was $6000 / year in 2000, and
is now $12000 5 years later.  That is a double in five years and the
projection is that it will continue into the foreseeable future.  

Hmmm... $24,000 in 2010, $48,000 in 2015, 96,000 in 2020...

Seems rather likely that only the company execs will have medical
coverage by 2015.

I am an independent contractor.  I pay $700 / month for just my wife and
I. I would pay an addition 200-300 if I had children.  Will I be able to
pay for medical in 5 years?  Maybe, but my rates will be a LOT higher.
In 10 years?  No.

I do have a plan though.  I will pick some thing that happens to me,
blame it on a deep pocket, sue and retire on my 1/2 billion dollar
settlement, and SCREW the rest of you guys.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawhon, Alan
C Contractor/Morgan Research
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?


Randall:

Good luck on getting reemployed.  I've been down the exact same road as
you, (i.e. laid off by a defense contractor), so I know where you're
coming from.

After I was laid off, (along with a group of about 6-8 other people), it
took me nearly four months to get re-employed, during which time I
managed to drain nearly all of my savings.  The strange thing about
being laid off was that this particular job was my first "professional"
job after I had graduated from college - and it only lasted about six
months - so I was blown away when the manager called us all into a small
office and told us the bad news.  I remember thinking at the time, while
he went on and on about this not being "a negative reflection on any of
you or the job you have done," ("Yea, right!"), thinking to myself "Hey,
this is NOT what I spent six years struggling in college for - to be
unceremoniously dumped!" Fortunately, I was unmarried, so I didn't have
to go thru the stress of explaining to a "better half" that there was
going to be a drastic slowdown in the income stream.

I've been lucky since then in that I've managed to stay (more or less)
gainfully employed, but the business we're in is very up and down.  As
one boss once told me, "Alan, in government contracting it's either
feast or famine.  If you've got a contract, it's feast.  If you don't,
it's famine ..."  (In government contracting, if you're a "worker bee"
doing mundane technical work - like computer programming or run-of-the-
mill engineering work - it's a mistake to ask for [or demand] too much
money.  They'll just hire a younger worker willing to work for less. The
reality is that on government contracts neither the contractor (or the
government) wants the most efficient and/or "productive" workers. They
want the "cheapest" workers.  (Nobody ever acknowledges this openly, but
a defense contractor maximizes profit by hiring workers as cheaply as
possible since the government pays a fixed hourly rate for each "labor
category" - irrespective of the competence and skill of the
interchangeable "worker unit" that is plugged into the slot.) It's
really just a game ...  <End of rant>

I've never forgotten the experience of walking the streets ("pounding
the
pavement") trying to get a job interview where everybody you talk to
says, "Sorry, we're not hiring ..."  (Just make sure that you have a new
job lined up before you make any "career change".)  I long ago realized
that there is no "security" in life.  Even Albert Einstein, the great
physicist, once complained about the "constant struggle" people have to
go thru just to keep food in their stomachs.

A funny thing about being suddenly (and unexpectedly) unemployed: You
find out (real quick) who your friends are ...

Alan C. Lawhon


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall
Anthony
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Steve,
I find myself in a position similar to yours, unfortunately I got laid
off in the process (lack of contractual funding, natch).

1.  I was very much immersed in developing and maintaining dbases and
applications from Access2.0 through A2K, using SQL and ASP pages for
some.

2.  As the work slowed down, my access to developing new apps
disappeared. Consequently, when push came to shove, my skillsets
deteriorated.

3.  The company I worked for was a division of a defense contractor with
a small IT department.  Last I heard that division's IT department is
getting smaller.

4.  So, during this "sabbatical", I decided to bite the bullet.  I've
got one class left, SQL Server 2K Implementation and Administration. I'm
now an MCP in ASP.Net development, I'm studying to pass the SQL
Programming exam next week, then I have two exams left to get my MCDBA.
If I had achieved this while working, that company would have given me a
bonus and a pay raise, however, even if I had accomplished this with
them, I still would have gotten the axe.

I have spoken with a number of professionals in the field when I was
contemplating getting my Masters degree.  Most concurred that a Masters
would be beneficial if you were aiming for management type positions
within the IT world, but the return on investment would be negligible if
I wished to remain technical.  Ergo, the next best thing to separate
oneself from the pack in IT is to get certified (in my humble opinion).

I'm starting to get more positive replies from companies I have
submitted a resume to, and I feel fairly confident that I will be
affiliated with someone soon.  I think that could be attributed to my
obtaining certification.

Randy.


Dear Group,

Could you indulge me in a little survey?

1) What's your main line of work these days? Access development, SQL
Server administration/development, VB, ASP/ASP.NET, PHP...?

2) How does your work today differ from what you were doing a few years
ago? Is it only that you're using newer versions of the same tools, or
are you doing entirely different development work?

3) Are you independent or do you work for a company? If you work for a
company, what's the size of the company and where do you fit in?

4) Do you have any Microsoft Certifications? If so, do you keep current
with them, and/or have they made any difference in your current
position?

Thank you very much. I'm approaching a career crossroads with the
decision to stay in business as an independent developer or not. I have
picked up a fair amount of .NET knowledge (the hard way -- is there any
other?) but I have no Microsoft certifications.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security


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