[AccessD] OT: Firewall

How can we take someone seriously who wants to be known as belly button?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Firewall


> Cool.  Best of luck in learning all that stuff.  If you discover a first
> class firewall that is a load and forget, and as easy to use (or 
> preferably
> easier) than a dlink etc., do let me know.  PCTech at BellyButton is not the
> first to insist this is The Way.  I have no intention of becoming a Linux
> geek nor a firewall geek in order to get such a thing, but if it is indeed
> load and forget, then it is definitely for me.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen 
> Rosenstiel
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:03 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Firewall
>
>
> John (and all),
> I just bought a copy of the new distro of Mandriva (formerly Mandrake)at
> Barnes & Noble and installed it on an old PIII box with 512m of ram.
> Installed like a breeze. It read and set up my LAN, my printer and all the
> hardware very easily. I had previously been trying to learn Linux with Red
> Hat Ver. 9 and then Fedora, but it was a PITA. Mandriva didn't take any
> longer than Windows XP either. You can set it up as a DHCP server with
> firewall or DSN server or whatever.
>
> The magazine that came with the distro -- from Linux Format -- had a
> step-by-step install guide with tutorials and it included a Linux quick
> reference wall chart. As you can tell, I was pretty impressed. Cost $20 
> but
> might be worth your while to look at.
>
> Regards,
>
> Karen Rosenstiel
> Seattle WA USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:17 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Firewall
>
> PCTech,
>
> First let me say that signatures are a good thing.  We know what you like 
> to
> be called and can address you that way.
>
> Second, I understand the "dedicated firewall" mentality, but for Joe 
> Average
> (me!) it is a non starter.  The effort involved in learning enough just to
> get Linux installed is enough to kill the concept.  I have done that much
> and all by itself it was enough to give me pause.  Believe me, I read 
> about
> such things and wish... But it ain't happening.  What is simple to a
> "computer network engineer" is pretty much Greek to me.
>
> And finally, what you are discussing is what high end routers with REAL 
> SPI
> etc firewalls built-in are all about are they not?  It is my understanding
> that they are exactly that, real processors, running Linux, implementing a
> firewall.  No hard disk to fail, no video to deal with, turns back on 
> after
> a power failure, instant on, etc.  I would be much more likely to go do 
> that
> than spend the time and effort building a Linux box to implement a 
> firewall.
> Even here, the difference between the $50 I actually spent and the $200 I
> would need to spend for the real McCoy prevented that.
>
> The simple router / NAT / firewall combination by itself pretty much
> prevents the external probing kind of stuff (unless you have port mapping 
> /
> run a web server etc), and then the AV and software firewall picks up the
> pieces not handled.  I have run this combination since going broadband 
> about
> 4 years ago and have never had an infection, so I guess I have to say that
> is "good enough".
>
> I hate it when people rain on my parade, but I have considered this idea
> several times in the past and just said no way it was going to really
> happen.  OTOH, if you put together a "put in this CD, reboot and you will
> have a hardware firewall" kind of package, I might be persuaded to try it.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
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