[AccessD] Change ODBC timeout default query property

O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA) Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us
Wed Aug 23 13:47:44 CDT 2006


Thanks again!!  will look into some more things

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* OTDA - BDMA
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> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 02:34 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change ODBC timeout default query property
> 
> I have Enable DDE Refresh checked
> OLE/DDE timeout = 30
> Refresh interval = 60
> Number of Update Retries = 2
> ODBC Refresh Interval Sec = 1500
> Update retry interval = 250
> Record Level Locking is checked
> 
> One other thing I didn't mention before is that everything I 
> do via Access/ODBC is read only so in the ODBC Data source 
> setup I do have the Readonly Connection option checked too. 
> Not sure if that is the default.
> 
> I'm using Access 2003 now but started doing this using Access 
> 2000. We have a combination of 8i and 9i Oracle databases 
> that I connect to.
> 
> GK
> 
> On 8/23/06, O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA)
> <Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us> wrote:
> > Hi Gary,
> >
> > Thanks!!
> > If I run same query in PL_SQL no problem without touching 
> any timers.
> > Asked our DBA and they checked the ORACLE logon and there were no 
> > login limits.
> > So we checked the SQLNET.ORA file and the SQLNET.EXPIRE_TIME=0.
> > I set the registry to 6000.
> >
> > Just out of curiosity what do you have in the TOOLS OPTIONS 
> ADVANCED 
> > settings
> >        Enable DDe refresh
> >        OLE/DDE timeout 300
> >        REfresh interval 60
> >        Number of update retries 2
> >        Odbc refresh interval  1500
> >        Update retry interval 250
> >        Record level locking
> >
> > This is so strange. Will try looking at ms forums maybe 
> something there.
> > Thanks
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> > * Patricia O'Connor
> > * Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
> > * OTDA - BDMA
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> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Gary Kjos
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 02:14 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change ODBC timeout default query property
> > >
> > > Hi Patricia,
> > >
> > > Weird. Maybe I'm just lucky? ;-)
> > >
> > > I''ve got some extract queries that run for a few hours before 
> > > returning any results so I'd really be in trouble if it 
> didn't work 
> > > as it does for me.
> > >
> > > Perhaps you could test the database login theory if you ran a 
> > > similar query directly against the Oracle Database using another 
> > > tool such as SQL Navigator, Toad or SQL Plus, taking the 
> ODBC driver 
> > > out of the mix.  If the query works there then it isn't default 
> > > limits on the login causing your problem.  Or if you are 
> on friendly 
> > > enough terms with your Oracle DBA you could ask them what 
> they think 
> > > is going on.
> > >
> > > Good luck figuring it out and be sue and let us know when you do.
> > >
> > > GK
> > >
> > > On 8/22/06, O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA) 
> > > <Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us> wrote:
> > > > Hi Gary
> > > > I use the same ODBC driver and even tried rebooting - still
> > > get same
> > > > message.  Will check into the Oracle Database login to 
> see if they 
> > > > have something set up there.
> > > >
> > > > I recommend the oracle odbc over the microsoft because the date 
> > > > handling is better. Think it is better for passthru's also.
> > > There was
> > > > something else related also but I can't remember at just
> > > this moment.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > **************************************************
> > > > * Patricia O'Connor
> > > > * Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
> > > > * OTDA - BDMA
> > > > * (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Gary Kjos
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:07 PM
> > > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change ODBC timeout default query 
> > > > > property
> > > > >
> > > > > I am currently using Oracle ODBC driver 9.02.00.54  Yep.
> > > > > unclicking the "Enable Query Timeout" box does the trick
> > > for me and
> > > > > my users.
> > > > > That is the only option we change from default when
> > > setting up the
> > > > > ODBC data source. We use System DSN's for all ODBC 
> definitions. 
> > > > > I wonder if your Oracle Database login has a defaulting
> > > timeout level
> > > > > that is biting you..
> > > > >
> > > > > I have also used the Microsoft ODBC driver with good results.
> > > > > The only issue there was that if the Oracle Database
> > > login password
> > > > > was expired the Microsoft ODBC driver didn't prompt for
> > > entering a
> > > > > new password as the Oracle one did. that may have 
> changed with a 
> > > > > newer Microsoft driver though. We used to use a generic login 
> > > > > and password for everyone's Access ODBC into Oracle stuff,
> > > but because
> > > > > of Sarbains/Oxley we were required to change to 
> individual user 
> > > > > logins that had expiring passwords. So that was when the
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > ODBC driver not prompting for new password became more of
> > > an issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/22/06, O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA) 
> > > > > <Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us> wrote:
> > > > > > Gary
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which driver do you use? And unclick works?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are using the ORACLE ODBC driver Ora 9i. But also
> > > > > happens against
> > > > > > FOXPRO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I went to the Administrative tools, Data Sources(ODBC) and
> > > > > unclicked
> > > > > > Query Time out. Opened the MDB and tried a pretty simple
> > > > > query without
> > > > > > changing the Query Property Timeout over 60.  It still
> > > timed out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I get the following message if I don't set the QUERY
> > > PROPERTY ODBC
> > > > > > Timeout from 60 up to at least 500. I routinely set 
> it at 6000.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >        ODBC--Call failed.
> > > > > >        [Oracle] [ODBC] [ORA] ORA-01013: user requested
> > > cancel of
> > > > > > current operation (#1013)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know immediately that I forgot to update the timeout by
> > > > > the message
> > > > > > above. Many others do not understand so I am always
> > > > > checking out their
> > > > > > queries and machines.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was wondering whether there was a change to Registry or
> > > > > some hidden
> > > > > > MS change that would fix this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > **************************************************
> > > > > > * Patricia O'Connor
> > > > > > * Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
> > > > > > * OTDA - BDMA
> > > > > > * (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us
> > > > > > * (w) mailto:aa1160 at nysemail.state.ny.us
> > > > > > **************************************************
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> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf
> > > > > Of Gary Kjos
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:11 AM
> > > > > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change ODBC timeout default query 
> > > > > > > property
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which ODBC driver are you using?  With the Oracle ODBC 
> > > > > > > Driver for Oracle you can tell it to just NOT timeout by 
> > > > > > > unchecking
> > > > > the Timeout
> > > > > > > checkbox.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/22/06, O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA) 
> > > > > > > <Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is there a way to set the ODBC timeout default  in
> > > the query
> > > > > > > > properties from 60 to 6000 permanently?  Most 
> of our work
> > > > > > > is against
> > > > > > > > our ORACLE databases, some Foxpro, and SqlServer. For 
> > > > > > > > every
> > > > > > > new query
> > > > > > > > we do we have to remember to reset this before running
> > > > > > > otherwise we get a timeout.
> > > > > > > > Does not matter how easy or hard the query is, If
> > > it isn't at
> > > > > > > > least 600 then poof it stops.  One person said that it 
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > cause their MDB
> > > > > > > > to corrupt but I haven't had that problem.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The OPTIONS ADVANCED does not do this.  I have
> > > looked almost
> > > > > > > > everywhere but can't find out how to change the default.
> > > > > > > This would
> > > > > > > > be for 2k or 2k3.
> > > > > > > > Any help appreciated
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > **************************************************
> > > > > > > > * Patricia O'Connor
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