Charlotte Foust
cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Thu Dec 21 11:49:04 CST 2006
Thank you for that noble deed, kind sir. No, Helen (like Woody himself) is off doing books and newsletters. We have a wonderful Dutch developer who must have 10 fingers on each hand the way he answers questions as soon as they're asked. Plus a huge body of members who answer questions in the other forums. Woody's is primarily oriented toward Windows/Office, but we wander afield a bit. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:52 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Database Advisors lists No, not Woody's, I wouldn't do that to the good people over there! :o) I have a list of Access lists that I used to be involved with where people apparently give advice for their ego's sake alone rather than doing it to help out a fellow developer and getting warm & fuzzy for doing so (like the folks on our lists) Eww, didn't need to put that image in my mind ;o) I really have always gotten the impression from folks here that they genuinely like to help others. Of course one can get a bit of a self image boost from doing so but I don't see the attitude here that makes that a priority. The debates we have aren't necessarily about ego - they're about educating. The advice on the other lists wasn't bad advice just rude and arrogant. I would post the same question to all of the lists sometimes just to see the difference in response and attitude. I used to have nicknames for my lists so my wife would know which I was talking about. The mean list, the snob list, the nice list. Can you guess which one was the nice list? I used to be on Woody's (I may even still be subscribed?) but the forum format doesn't work out for very good. Is Helen still doing the job there? Oh, BTW a disclaimer: Nothing I have stated above applies to the DBA-OT list :o) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:20 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Database Advisors lists I just hope you didn't send him to Woody's Lounge! We periodically have to ban bad apples like that and then keep banning them when they create new user names to get around the ban. The atmospheree there is much like Access-D except the range of topics is broader. Any of you who want to visit www.wopr.com are welcome any time. The Access forum is our busiest board and we need all the help we can get! :o> Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:54 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Database Advisors lists One of my first acts as Prez - I had a little talk with him. I gave him a few links to some other lists that he could try out. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:57 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Database Advisors lists I seem to recall a couple years back someone came on the list - a real jerk - with a real bad attitude and dissing people. We drove him off somehow. Did we pull his list access - ban him from the list? I can't remember. Anybody remember that incident? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:28 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Database Advisors lists I agree - some lists I tried this year were pretty unbelievable...... ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart McLachlan To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Database Advisors lists I won't - this is certainly one of the more civilised lists. Signal to noise ratio is waaaaay above the average. On 19 Dec 2006 at 20:43, Steve Conklin wrote: > No one has yet challenged this line: > >>>>>>>> and without the ego trappings that you'll suffer from on other > lists. >>>>>>>> > Are you kidding me? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:10 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Cc: drive at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Database Advisors lists > > Dear accessd at databaseadvisors.com, > > Isn't access-d a great list? We're the kind of community that actually > works-we get the technical help we need free, and without the ego trappings > that you'll suffer from on other lists. I know that I find the list > invaluable, and there are several others-industry leaders-that agree with > me. 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