[AccessD] Access97 on W2000 crashes

Andy Lacey andy at minstersystems.co.uk
Mon Jan 9 16:03:24 CST 2006


Thanks for the link Shamil, I'll investigate.

Yes there's just one (v large) FE. No library MDBs or MDEs.

Andy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shamil Salakhetdinov
> Sent: 09 January 2006 21:54
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access97 on W2000 crashes
> 
> 
> Andy,
> 
> Do you have just one front-end program mdb database or this 
> mdb refers to the other (library) .mdb/.mde databases? Do you 
> haev your front-end program mdb database's code compiled and saved?
> 
> Shamil
> 
> P.S. I still hope you can solve the problem without 
> investigating the list of loaded .dlls etc. but if you will 
> need that here is the code you can use:
> 
> http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Tips/Getting_Process_Info
> rmation_Using_PSAPI/VB_PSAPI_Demonstration.asp
> 
> combined with GetFileVersionInfo API call...
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access97 on W2000 crashes
> 
> 
> > Well I've moved on but not solved the problem. Importing everything 
> > into a new mdb didn't do it, so I decided to see if WXP had 
> the same 
> > problem. The answer was almost but not quite. It didn't 
> give the error 
> > message, instead it just dropped out of Access clean as a 
> whistle - no 
> > meesage, no nothing. So, I reckon, same problem just looks 
> different 
> > under XP. Now I've come
> home
> > to my own XP machine and run the app and no sign of a 
> problem. I now 
> > have
> to
> > think - why does an XP machine at work fail but not mine 
> here? Would 
> > it be reasonable to think it's a DLL issue? And could the 
> following be 
> > a factor? At work I long ago created a distributable version on the 
> > network so we could use Runtime. So even though we later installed 
> > full Access
> everywhere
> > we still install from the network Setup and use /Runtime. 
> At home I've
> never
> > done that. It's not the /Runtime itself cos I've tried 
> without it, but
> does
> > the fact that the MDB is installed by a distributable runtime setup 
> > mean that it's using different DLL's than a version just 
> running under 
> > a normal Access installation? I'm sure I've explained that 
> badly, but 
> > the nub is:
> a)
> > does anyone know how I can establish a full list of DLLs involved in
> running
> > the MDB, and b) how can I easily compare versions of said 
> DLLs on two 
> > machines?
> >
> >
> > -- Andy Lacey
> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> > > Brock
> > > Sent: 09 January 2006 14:08
> > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access97 on W2000 crashes
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Andy
> > >
> > > Yes, I see the problem.
> > > But the import thing - if it should be the cure - should 
> really be a 
> > > one-timer. If it works, proceed evolution on the fresh 
> version as it 
> > > should work on W98 as well.
> > >
> > > /gustav
> > >
> > > >>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 09-01-2006 14:50:04 >>>
> > > Mmm, well there may be a Debug.Print around in a called routine 
> > > somewhere I guess. I'll take a look. I've decomp'd and 
> recomp'd on 
> > > the W2K machine but not done the new MDB thing. I could 
> try but it'd 
> > > be a nightmare scenario. The MDB is in constant evolution and I 
> > > couldn't contemplate having to do that every time. Madre 
> mia! Still, 
> > > I guess it'd be worth knowing if it cures the problem. Thanks 
> > > Gustav. Any other suggestions welcomed (very, very much).
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andy Lacey
> > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --------- Original Message --------
> > > From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access97 on W2000 crashes
> > > Date: 09/01/06 13:24
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Andy
> > >
> > > I had a similar thing which I tracked down to a line with 
> > > Debug.Print. Commented this out and the code ran, believe 
> it or not. 
> > > However, that was not intermittent but consistent.
> > >
> > > Have you been through the usual tools: decompile and recompile on 
> > > Win2000? Or - still on Win2000 - import all objects in a new file?
> > >
> > > /gustav
> > >
> > > >>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 09-01-2006 14:07:32 >>>
> > > Help guys
> > >
> > > I have this Access 97 MDB (FE and BE both A97) which has been 
> > > running for years, mostly on W98 but also for some time 
> on W2K. Last 
> > > week something new happened. 2 users who were previously 
> on W98 went 
> > > to W2K. They use a part of the system which others don't, or at 
> > > least they try to but when they do it regularly crashes with:
> > >
> > > "Msaccess.exe has generated errors and will be closed by Windows. 
> > > You will need to restart the program. An error log is being 
> > > created."
> > >
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