Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Dec 13 07:34:45 CST 2007
That is a good point Shamil... I would actually prefer to design my own framework and populate it with code custom designed "from the ground up" and use libraries of personally created functions. Much of my work tends to be from other programmers who just need my services to finish their applications. To really design an excellent application takes a good six months but rarely are clients willing to pay for it. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:47 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Developers vs. Tuners Was: RE: The new way of coding. Jim, I suppose that with (rapid) development tools progress, which as far as I see is getting accelerated now, the overall costs of custom application development will become comparable with the costs of assembled from the pre-built and (mainly declaratively) tuned components, I mean: the time needed to get a custom "from scratch" application framework for a certain business application mainly generated based on data-/business domain- models is rapidly shrinking but even if it will always be longer than the time needed to get custom application framework from pre-built components, even in that case, when custom application framework ready then there is/will be still quite some business domain application logic programming and here pre-built components are a "Procrustean Bed" - they force developers to follow, sometimes very strict and inflexible, "rules & regulations" usually embedded in such tunable frameworks: following these rules will negate in long run all the tunable application assembling practices temporary financial advantages... A developer becoming a tuner is as a jazz improviser loosing her improvising abilities and becoming a musician able to play only using notes... Just my opinion of course. But I'd also suppose there are many developers here who share such views on current state of application development... And I do think these views are not a collective appearance of NIH syndrome... -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] The new way of coding. Hi All: Considering the possibility of moving into a web based applications and using .Net; the old way of writing your own modules, though very instructional is not worth it. More and more it is better to simply buy a module that you require and plug it in. If a module cost only a few hundred dollars or it would take a week to write and test one of your own so why not just buy it. Until recently I would write or cobble together systems from code from other projects but moving exclusively to Dot Net is too time consuming. I have been using the Dot Nuke Net application, building my own skins, as per client requests, extensively configuring it, adding the costs of purchased modules into overall bill. Now clients can have a custom, web based application, with a full CRM, Word Processor, Spreadsheet, high quality graphics, a full set of ecommerce modules, user management module, a accounting system, along with a built in email manager, at a reasonable price, fully field tested, in around month. I am still looking for a descent POS but have been reviewing a couple. Any suggestions? Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com