[AccessD] Log class

Jim,

>I am not sure how well he has done with this but suspect not as well as he
should have. 

LOL, to say the least. 

>It seems to take more marketing than designing to sell a product.

Again, so true.

>To make a short story long, I think John's product is excellent and if he
spent most of his time marketing, sales would have reflected that.

LOL, yea but I am not a sales person, and further, if I spent most of my
time marketing, then the product itself would not exist since it is a result
of my time spent in the trenches.

I thought long and hard about this many years ago, before the framework had
evolved into what it is today.  It appeared that I would have to sell for
many hundreds of $ in order to provide support for the product.  My take on
the market was that it was simply too advanced a concept, sold to people who
were too quirky 

(yea, YOU GUYS!!!)  ;-) 

This is not a spreadsheet or word processor, sold to end users.  It is a
VERY specialized development tool sold to PROGRAMMERS, many of whom (myself
included) are scouring the internet for FREE stuff to make their programming
life easier.  Further it is a product for ACCESS, which we all know is just
a TOY, aimed at POWER USERS and denigrated by all the REAL PROGRAMMERS out
there.  <grin>

In the end I decided to just use it as a tool to make my own life easier, my
own development faster, and give me a competitive edge.  Which it has, and
has, and has.  It just keeps getting better.

I actually offered one time to head a group of AccessD people to develop an
AccessD framework.  For a lot of reasons it didn't fly.  It takes a serious
commitment to volunteer to work on something like this for the good of the
community, but if there is ever enough interest and enough individuals who
would step up and commit to working on it, I will put the offer out there
again.  I can't do it by myself though.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Log class

Hi Martin:

<comment>
I think that would be a great idea but John has, in the past, been trying to
sell and has allowed downloads of specific modules of related code. I am not
sure how well he has done with this but suspect not as well as he should
have. 

It seems to take more marketing than designing to sell a product.

I was on a short term contract with a company that had a type of frame-work
built on top of an Access database. The companies' staff deployment was as
follows:

1   x Network support
3   x Frame Assemblers and help desk guys
2   x Framework designer, or real programmers

5   x Program managers
12  x Sales and advertising staff
... and the usual account clerks, front desk persons and managers. (5 more)

>From this company, which was actually listed on the Toronto stock 
>exchange,
only 5% of the staff did programming. 95% of the people were support,
management and on sales.

I can not say whether this is fairly typical company layout but they have
survived for over 15 years in the computer industry.

To make a short story long, I think John's product is excellent and if he
spent most of his time marketing, sales would have reflected that.    
</comment>

Jim

PS I hope you do not mind me commenting on you in third person.